Emulation (open discussion)

automatic, I wasn't targetting YOU, as I said before, I'm talking about the ideals you have stated. Yes, lots of people at AGN have ROMs but remember, most of AGN are retrogamers, which means they aren't all downloading the GBA roms and Xbox/Ps2 ISOs.

Now about piracy versus theft. Yes, shoplifting the actual original item is different, but the end result is nearly the same. It's just that when you steal from the retailer, they lose the money on the unit you stole since it is never sold, where as with piracy, you never go near the store, and eventually that unit will be sold.

Anyway, I can't say I "respect you" for your ideals about piracy, but I do respect that you can have your own and different opinion than mine. It really seems to me the difference is that you don't seem to care about supporting companies by buying their games because others will likely do that for you. Not a big deal, nothing to lose sleep about.

By the way, Bonestorm, wasn't that the gme Bart Simpson was trying to steal?

Mottzilla wrote:By the way, Bonestorm, wasn't that the gme Bart Simpson was trying to steal?

would there be the proverbial "better" emulator for logging sound/dumping music banks?

I have ROMS for almost all of the NES games and most of the popular SNES games out there. BUT I also have bought most of the NES remakes for the GBA:SP. I use ROMS as a last resort I suppose.

I think a better analogy to piracy is not theft from a store, but sneaking into a concert, movie, or play. I believe then that there IS something morally wrong with using a ROM of a game that is still in production. Someone gave up time and energy, and used his countless hours of training in college to make a product that he hopes you will enjoy. All he asks is that you compensate for that loss of time and energy. I don't see why we should not do so. While you might be able to live under the protection of a Parent, and spend your allowance, this guy has to support himself in the real world.

you make a good point 😃

speaking of conversions, are there any programs that can directly convert sfc(i think that's what SNES music is called :shrug: ) to midis?

Zero Wing wrote:would there be the proverbial "better" emulator for logging sound/dumping music banks?

For what system?

The Cyborg wrote:you make a good point

speaking of conversions, are there any programs that can directly convert sfc(i think that's what SNES music is called ) to midis?

SPCs. Yes, there are a few at zophar.net. I think they're called SPC2MID and SPCTOOL, but I'm not sure. You'll need a basic understanding of how Midis and SPCs work, though, since track instruments must be selected manually.

SPCTool converts SPCs to IT (Impulse Tracker) mod music files which sound quite nice. I recommend it whenever possible.

The Cyborg wrote:you make a good point 😃

speaking of conversions, are there any programs that can directly convert sfc(i think that's what SNES music is called :shrug: ) to midis?

I think there is but I forgot the name of it. I just know any game I wanted to listen to its track, I listen to them on winamp.

Daywalker

Kairyu wrote:For what system?

Sorry, forgot that detail 😉

um, for NES, Master System, Game Gear, and Game Boy based emulators

Kairyu wrote:SPCs. Yes, there are a few at zophar.net. I think they're called SPC2MID and SPCTOOL, but I'm not sure. You'll need a basic understanding of how Midis and SPCs work, though, since track instruments must be selected manually.

I use WinKawaks.

Well remember Arcade games aren't all on the same hardware. MAME is actually a huge compilation of emulators which were made by and contributed to by many many people. MAME emulates more games and more hardware than any other emulator known. Anyway, Kawaks is a CPS1/CPS2/Neogeo emulator. There are others that emulate these 3 and more, such as FinalBurnAlpha and Nebula. And ofcourse, MAME. Also I heard Raine supports CPS1/2 and I don't know about neogeo.

Tried WinKawaks, liked it, but how do the others compare?

They all perform probably similar for the systems they all emulate. Nebula may be a tad slower depending on your settings. If you like kawaks, stick with it. It's a good emulator. Nebula supposively has quite accurate NeoGeo emulation I believe, but it doesn't really affect the playability of any games. They all can play the same stuff. Maybe minor differences here and there. So pick the one you like and have fun really. I have all 3, plus mame.

I've notice that there are many versions of the same rom on an emulation site, my question, why are there different versions?

Because... there are so many versions of the cartridge in existance? FYI, there can easily be 3 versions, USA, Japan, Europe, then add in revisions, forinstance many games get 1 revision, some maybe another or even 3 different versions.

Rom images are about preserving the software, not just get 1 copy of a game and say it's done. Every revision of a game should be dumped and preserved. Thats why you can later obtain whatever version you desire.

Mottzilla wrote:Because... there are so many versions of the cartridge in existance? FYI, there can easily be 3 versions, USA, Japan, Europe, then add in revisions, forinstance many games get 1 revision, some maybe another or even 3 different versions.

Rom images are about preserving the software, not just get 1 copy of a game and say it's done. Every revision of a game should be dumped and preserved. Thats why you can later obtain whatever version you desire.

*smacks self on head*

thanks; is there extention for Winamp to play SPC files without converting them?
(the reason being, I want to know what file is which before I use them in one of my ZC quests....)

SNESAmp.

If you can't find it in the SPC utilities in Zophar's Domain, try the Winamp Players section.
It's best feature is probably .RSN playing. Create a .RAR of a group of SPC files, change the filename to .RSN, and SNESAmp can open them.

So what are you guys views on abandonware, you know games that were put out by a compony that has went bankrupt or simply dismantled.

Maleficent wrote:So what are you guys views on abandonware, you know games that were put out by a compony that has went bankrupt or simply dismantled.

If they went bankrupt, then obviously their games were shit and not worth playing. =\

And when the fuck did this thread turn into "Ask Mott about every little fucking that comes to mind"? The last 2 pages have basically been questions for mott. 😮dd:

Abandonware is just another name for warez that you're less likely to get in trouble for copyright infringement such as making illegal copies. Remember, illegal copies of games are all subject to the same standard, that it's up to the holder to defend their rights. Most of the big companies hire others to do this for them. Such as the ISDA. They represent Nintendo, Capcom, etc.

Masamune wrote:And when the fuck did this thread turn into "Ask Mott about every little fucking that comes to mind"? The last 2 pages have basically been questions for mott. 😮dd:

nope, my questions have been for anybody who can answer them; is it my fault when Mott decides to answer them first?

Maleficent wrote:So what are you guys views on abandonware, you know games that were put out by a compony that has went bankrupt or simply dismantled.

Obviously mottzilla just knows more about emulation than the rest of us. If you feel so inclined, jump right in and answer a few Q's, too. Or not. I would if I were so up on emulation, but I'm not. it's good information, either way. :|

EDIT: Heres an emulation question for you... Don't link me to zophar. I've obviously already checked. what I'd like, read this before you warn me, is a link to public domain/free not copyright protected roms. the stuff that we're allowed to post. I can't really really find anything thats well organized, and I've checked out everything at zophar. on occasion, I find stuff, but theres always problems with the site.

Goto google.com and type in public domain roms. There are a couple sites that host them for popular systems like SNES/NES.

Emu-Russia has a lot of good Roms for the old systems. (SNES, Genesis, etc.) However, it doesn't have emulators anymore...

have you tried Nerologic?

Can anyone recommend a good GBA emulator?
I've tried he visualboy advance, several versions, and the sound is awful.
Works ok otherwise.
I'm running windows 98, 64MB ram 400MHz processor.

I've searched myself... Visual boy is just about the only one that doesn't cost teh $$$. Maybe get a new videocard, because nothing is better than VB for free. :shrug:

Can anyone show me a good x box emulator? I looked for one but I could not find any.

Freedom, from the readme..

System requirements
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Fast computer (Pentium III 500 Mhz recommended) and Microsoft DirectX 7 or
greater.

You're below the requirements for VBA, which is quite possibly the best and fastest GBA emulator.