Mottzilla wrote:Then someone get a staff member to look into it.
yep, only thing you can do with that...
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I don't remember if this was brought up, but would BIOS files needed to run certain emulators be legal? (ie, the Sega CD portion of gens, or EPSXE)
The Bios files are ussually copyrighted and illegal to distribute. Forinstance Sega CD, Sega 32X, Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, PSX, PS2, NeoGeo, NeoGeo CD, and so forth.
Well, hold on now it is not against God's law to have emulators so, it is morally ok and the only three ways to get caught most likely are:
If you turn yourself into the company.
Someone from the company comes to your house & sees it or if your are going to turn around AND START SELLING THEM!!!
So as long as you do not make profit you are ok I promise ok but Motzilla please change your post & last, please understand when I make my game on the internet where you get to make your own game, you know I'll just make it to go along with a ZC program versions (at least one) to download so people CAN WAYYYYY EASIER make there own game like whatever they wish.
But I will contact the guy who makes the versions of ZC about it who may I contact though?
FireGirl wrote:Well, hold on now it is not against God's law to have emulators so, it is morally ok and the only three ways to get caught most likely are:If you turn yourself into the company.
Someone from the company comes to your house & sees it or if your are going to turn around AND START SELLING THEM!!!
So as long as you do not make profit you are ok I promise ok but Motzilla please change your post & last, please understand when I make my game on the internet where you get to make your own game, you know I'll just make it to go along with a ZC program versions (at least one) to download so people CAN WAYYYYY EASIER make there own game like whatever they wish.
But I will contact the guy who makes the versions of ZC about it who may I contact though?
And hey I download games to so Motzilla no one really cares if I or anyone else has emulators unless you are distributing them, giving TOO MANY AWAY or sell them so it is ok I am not saying emulators should go bye bye infact I think making EMULATION illegal IS VERY STUPID.
FYI, there is no way in hell Nintendo is going to come to your house to look in your window to see if you're playing on VBA. That would be an extremely inefficient way to go about stopping piracy. And please, know what you're talking about before you decide to add in your 2 cents. That wasn't meant to be a flame. I'm just saying, you don't know wtf you're talking about.
I'm not changing my fucking post. Who the fuck mentioned God? I don't care what your beliefs are. We don't want your opinion on anything. You're an idiot. Go away. You don't know anything about creating anything. Zelda Classic developers will not respond to you due to you being an idiot. Now go away kid.
Yeah you pretty much ditched yourself in a hole firegirl. Do yourself a favor and know the things your talking about before you say anything else.
Daywalker
DsS Game wrote:Yeah you pretty much ditched yourself in a hole firegirl. Do yourself a favor and know the things your talking about before you say anything else.
Lets gets back to the discussion at hand, shall we?
Damn why does it gotta be my post? lol.
Daywalker
I'll start things goin again :sweat:
which is better, SNES9X or ZSNES?
FireGirl wrote:Well, hold on now it is not against God's law to have emulators so, it is morally ok and the only three ways to get caught most likely are:If you turn yourself into the company.
Someone from the company comes to your house & sees it or if your are going to turn around AND START SELLING THEM!!!
So as long as you do not make profit you are ok I promise ok but Motzilla please change your post & last, please understand when I make my game on the internet where you get to make your own game, you know I'll just make it to go along with a ZC program versions (at least one) to download so people CAN WAYYYYY EASIER make there own game like whatever they wish.
But I will contact the guy who makes the versions of ZC about it who may I contact though?
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reccomend I use to SNES9X
both have their ups and downs :shrug:
here's an interesting problem--
when I'm recording an AVI of gameplay through SNES9X the colors are "wrong", is there anything I can do about it?
(playing Zelda 3, opening the Misery Mire dungeon enterence with the medallion)
And what would be the best compression codec to use for the AVI?
(assuming I don't have other problems once this is fixed :sweat: )
I think ZSNES is a better emulator than SNES9x, but one thing that has been bugging me about ZSNES is that it's sound is screwy (at least in the Linux port - not sure about the others). I've tried the work in progress version, but it's not any better 😞
Anybody tried SNEeSE? It's also a SNES emulator. All around it can't touch ZSNES and SNES9X, but it's sound support is amazing. I'm hoping ZSNES will use some of their stuff to improve their sound (SNEeSE is open source like too)
I agree, I use ZSNES. I've never had a sound problem on XP. :shrug:
ZSNES sound in WIN is pretty good, though, I've had problems with the DOS port
I prefer SNES9X, I feel that the interface is better than the one ZSNES has
Yeah... When I use the DOS port in a shell, the sound is completely raped. Either none at all, or it comes in so funky I disable it anyhow... and restarting in true dos takes too long 😞
I know and talk to the author of SNEeSe fairly often. As you said it doesn't yet support alot of things ZSNES and SNES9X do, but that's because it's just him (TRAC) working on it. Not to mention he's going for accurate emulation, not play as many games as you can. I don't know if you know this, but ZSNES and maybe SNES9X in the past and currently may still use special game hacks to overcome inaccurate emulation. Remember BS-Zelda? The author of the original "complete hack" tested it on ZSNES. Because of this it doesn't run properly on a real SNES. But it runs on zsnes? ZSNES doesn't mimic the strick and bitchy behavior of the real SNES hardware. SNEeSe mimics this much closer, as I noticed SNEeSe behaved the same way the real SNES did with BS-Zelda.
Anyways. I ussually use ZSNES as I started out with that because it was faster tha SNES9X back when I still used DOS. Now I just use which works best for the game I wanna play.
Mottzilla wrote:I know and talk to the author of SNEeSe fairly often. As you said it doesn't yet support alot of things ZSNES and SNES9X do, but that's because it's just him (TRAC) working on it. Not to mention he's going for accurate emulation, not play as many games as you can. I don't know if you know this, but ZSNES and maybe SNES9X in the past and currently may still use special game hacks to overcome inaccurate emulation.
Cool.
Sorry to sound like I came down so hard on SNEeSe, it wasn't intentional. I understand his situation. It's hard to compare with ZSNES and SNES9X though, when like you said, they are concerned about playing as many games as possible, not necessarily being as accurate. As far as I know, they still use hacks to play many games.
If the work that guy has done on SNEeSe just in terms of it's sound emulation is any indication of what's to come, I'm very excited 😊
I like ZSNES's rewind key, for when I'm going through a game and I do something really stupid on accident, like cast a healing spell on a boss instead of my party or something. But, my only experience with SNES9X is one crappy old version on a High School PC from the days before transparency, so I'm not really well-versed on the competition.
It seems a ZSNES WIP which supports SDD-1 compression was just released. I'd say 'bout time, but then again they aren't really getting paid for it or anything.
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I have something to say about emulators, they can help people in the games you know why? Because I have Dragon Quest VII (Seven) [7] for SNES BUT IT IS IN JAPANESE & I CAN NOT READ JAPANESE!!!
So if I get Dragon Quest VII as an emulator I might be able to get the downloaded version & even get it to where I will be able to read the game in english & even learn Japanese!!!
FireGirl wrote:I have something to say about emulators, they can help people in the games you know why? Because I have Dragon Quest VII (Seven) [7] for SNES BUT IT IS IN JAPANESE & I CAN NOT READ JAPANESE!!!So if I get Dragon Quest VII as an emulator I might be able to get the downloaded version & even get it to where I will be able to read the game in english & even learn Japanese!!!
Dragon Quest VII was released here in the US as Dragon Warrior VII for the Playstation in 2001. Are you sure you don't mean Dragon Quest VI? That was for the SNES and was not released here in the US. There is a project to translate the game at DeJap: http://www.dejap.com/index.php
Wow that was so random.
Anyways I rather prefer ZNES over SNES9X due to sound. I think it's perfect.
Daywalker
Then you are horribly mistaken. ZSNES's sound emulation is light years away from perfect and likely never will be. Case and point, BS-Zelda with the Roto hack. On real hardware the SPC chip gets locked up, but not in ZSNES. This is due to incorrect SPC emulation.
Oh, misread the question. I said that I don't download ROMs which isn't technically correct. I have roms on my computer right now. I don't think that you should download ROMs that are currently being sold. Particularly I've seen that there is a GBA emulator out there and I think that that's wrong to do. I have a NES and SNES emulator. Since neither of those sytems are being sold than I don't feel wrong about downloading them.
Mottzilla wrote:Then you are horribly mistaken. ZSNES's sound emulation is light years away from perfect and likely never will be. Case and point, BS-Zelda with the Roto hack. On real hardware the SPC chip gets locked up, but not in ZSNES. This is due to incorrect SPC emulation.
wow, just seen Zophar's Domain, do you reccomend any utilites for patching roms?
here's a few more questions to add to my other unanswered ones
what's the reccomended port of BS Zelda?
what are some decent ROM hacking utilities?
(I want to try my hand in it... :evil: )
The Cyborg wrote:
what are some decent ROM hacking utilities?
(I want to try my hand in it... :evil: )
Do you have any advanced programming background? If not, you're pretty much limited to stuff like Hyrule Magic, SMILE, Temporal Flux, etc. which are game-specific and a bit limited...
For rom patching I recommend SNESTool.
For BS-Zelda get the patched rom at a site called Bs-Zelda Homepage. DreamNom and I have been working together to get a more real hardware compatable Bs-Zelda patch. The one that's there now should work fine on any emulator though.
Just look for the "Players Choice" rom.
Rom Hacking utilities ussually have specific purposes, with the exception of a good hex editor which can do anything so long as you know what you are doing. There are lots of tools (zophar.net) which can edit specific games, edit text, edit graphics. If you are new to hacking then don't aim too high or you will fail. Many games like on SNES use comperssion for graphics or text causing problems for unskilled translation hackers.
Rainman, I know what you mean. However I still use GBA emulators, but only to play games I actually own on a larger screen with a PSX controller. 😉 I pretty much own the few GBA games I'll ever wanna play.
Mottzilla wrote:Then you are horribly mistaken. ZSNES's sound emulation is light years away from perfect and likely never will be. Case and point, BS-Zelda with the Roto hack. On real hardware the SPC chip gets locked up, but not in ZSNES. This is due to incorrect SPC emulation.
With the DOS port. The windows port I compared it. Good example would be Super MEtroid. I went to the Red Soil area of Brinstar and compared the music and sound. Amazingly I found them to be very very close to be the original. I dunno if it was my comp but it lagged a bit.
Daywalker
I'm not talking nessisarily about the sound "quality" but about the accuracy of the sound chip emulation.
Anyway, I got my xbox modded now, and it's an emulating machine! I can play NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, Master System, GameBoy, and a bunch of arcade games on it. Now all I need is a PS2 to Xbox controller adaptor. 😉