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*sigh* Lame
My dad took me up to the Apple Store today to pick out my new laptop as a graduation present. (Please, no grief about 'haha, apple sucks". I'm looking at you Bel)
We get it back home, it's all good, I'm setting it up, than ten minutes in, my entire screen fades to gray, with pinstripes. Like...glitchy gray pinstripes.
After time with tech support, they figure it's a problem with the graphics card.
All I gotta do is trade it in.

I just wish I didn't live an hour from the nearest store. Fun trip tomorrow.

I mean,I'm not really frustrated with Apple. As soon as it became clear it was a hardware issue, they immediately said I should just trade it in at no charge. I just wish I lived closer.

And for the record, the reason I'm getting a Mac?
a.) I can install XP in parallel, run my PC programs when I need to, and b.) my dad, being a professional graphic artist, can outfit me with Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator, Flash, Dreamweaver, etc, etc, a bunch of top notch stuff.

The_Amaster wrote:(Please, no grief about 'haha, apple sucks". I'm looking at you Bel)

I do not think Apple sucks or that they make bad computers. I just don't think their computers justify the higher prices and I find Apple's marketing to be horribly annoying.

I don't like it when a company founded by nerds tells me I'm not hip because I use Windows. The more Apple tries to get me to worry about being hip, the higher I hike my pants and higher up on my nose I push my reading glasses.

Also, almost no games run on Apple computers, a one button mouse is undesirable, iTunes is an annoying, invasive application that I do not want, iPods and iPhones are ridiculously overpriced, U2 is the worst band in history, and none of the software the I use on a daily basis is available for Mac.

I in no way fault other people for using Mac if it fits their needs. It just doesn't fit mine, and I'm glad because their marketing is horrible and obnoxious.

I feel for you Amaster. I'm about 45 minutes away from the nearest mall.

So on my history test on World War II, one of the questions is "Japanese-Americans on the west coast were relocated in 1942 to _______ camps." Further down on the page, a question says "Why were Japanese-Americans on the west coast put in internment camps, and what is your opinion on whether this was right or wrong." I was laughing pretty hard at it. 😃

The_Amaster wrote:*sigh* Lame
My dad took me up to the Apple Store today to pick out my new laptop as a graduation present. (Please, no grief about 'haha, apple sucks". I'm looking at you Bel)
We get it back home, it's all good, I'm setting it up, than ten minutes in, my entire screen fades to gray, with pinstripes. Like...glitchy gray pinstripes.
After time with tech support, they figure it's a problem with the graphics card.
All I gotta do is trade it in.

I just wish I didn't live an hour from the nearest store. Fun trip tomorrow.

I mean,I'm not really frustrated with Apple. As soon as it became clear it was a hardware issue, they immediately said I should just trade it in at no charge. I just wish I lived closer.

And for the record, the reason I'm getting a Mac?
a.) I can install XP in parallel, run my PC programs when I need to, and b.) my dad, being a professional graphic artist, can outfit me with Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator, Flash, Dreamweaver, etc, etc, a bunch of top notch stuff.


The Apple store where I bought my Mac was a 2 hour drive, and that's the closest one :\ So I feel for you.

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Russell wrote:I feel for you Amaster. I'm about 45 minutes away from the nearest mall.

So on my history test on World War II, one of the questions is "Japanese-Americans on the west coast were relocated in 1942 to _______ camps." Further down on the page, a question says "Why were Japanese-Americans on the west coast put in internment camps, and what is your opinion on whether this was right or wrong." I was laughing pretty hard at it. 😃


"internment" camps huh? That's what they are calling them? My history teacher just called them what they were, concentration camps. He even said that the US put out all kinds of propaganda about how Germany was doing this, but didn't mention that they were themselves. From what I recall, the US wasn't gassing them, but many did die in them.

Shazza Dani wrote:Monroeville PA. Near the Monroeville Mall, where they filmed Dawn of the Dead. User posted image

Did you get to be a zombie for the movie?

jerome wrote:"internment" camps huh? That's what they are calling them? My history teacher just called them what they were, concentration camps. He even said that the US put out all kinds of propaganda about how Germany was doing this, but didn't mention that they were themselves. From what I recall, the US wasn't gassing them, but many did die in them.

Kind of funny, my book had a whole section on them being called concentration camps. I can tell you, although it was wrong that they were put in internment camps, they were certainly not concentration camps.

Internment camps: Camps where Japanese were relocated so they would be away from the coast, because a Japanese sub surfaced off the coast of Oregon, and everybody thought that a Japanese invasion was coming.

Concentration camps: Camps where Hitler unleashed his hatred against the Jews by systematically murdering them, then burning the bodies.

Surely you can see the difference. I'm not saying I agree with the decision for the internment camps, but they were certainly not concentration camps.

Incorrect. Not all German concentration camps were death camps. Many were work camps, and/or just internment camps.

Correct definition:

Internment Camp: A military controlled enclosure where a powerful state entity imprisons individuals it fears or loathes.

Concentration Camp: A military controlled enclosure where a powerful state entity imprisons individuals it fears or loathes.

Some concentration camps were death camps. Some were not. All were internment camps.

I am not arguing for a moral equivalency between death camps and Japanese internment camps. However, there is, in reality, no difference between a concentration camp and an internment camp. They are synonyms.

A concentration camp where genocide took place is a subset of internment camps, not a separate entity. The USA did not commit genocide against the Japanese prisoners. However, it is an undeniable fact that the USA imprisoned its citizens on racial/nationalist grounds.

Well, with that definition, I guess they were concentration camps. However, when most people think of concentration camps, they think of Nazi death camps. So labeling the camps Japanese-Americans were sent to as concentration camps can be very, very misleading.

Well, the problem of concentration camps being confused with death camps is more a problem of lack of knowledge rather than a problem of linguistic clarity, if you ask me. It's like how many people confuse the term "scientific theory" with the layman's definition of a theory. You don't revise the language because people are ignorant.

rock_nog wrote: You don't revise the language because people are ignorant.

Exactly. Facts are not a democracy. "Most people" is not a measuring stick with which to measure the legitimacy of an idea.

"Most people" think American Idol is a good show. I loathe the idea that all language and ideas must conform to the drooling, lethargic stupidity of "most people".

"Most people" don't read books or know anything about history, political theory, science, philosophy, or basic logic.

Russell wrote:... labeling the camps Japanese-Americans were sent to as concentration camps can be very, very misleading.

I think not calling them concentration camps is what's misleading.

Beldaran wrote:Exactly. Facts are not a democracy. "Most people" is not a measuring stick with which to measure the legitimacy of an idea.

However, language does tend to change as people do. It's an inevitable fact, and we might as well just go with it.

Well, just got back from ACen, Chicago's local giant anime/video game/geek convention, and man am I tired. The two main areas are connected by a two hundred yard skybridge, and that got old real fast. But picked up a geat Star Trek poster, some tips on DMing, and a lot of other miscilanious stuff.

So, yeah, goingto bed now...

However, language does tend to change as people do. It's an inevitable fact, and we might as well just go with it.

Yup. Just like cancer used to be known as "consumption". They didn't die of cancer, they died of consumption. Language is wierd. At least English anyways. I don't know enough of any others to say the same about them. From what little I know about Spanish, it seems to make sense most of the time (rules and such).

I went on a 400mile motorcycle ride today, and got paid for doing it. I volunteered myself for a service call to some place about 200 miles from where I live. I figured I'd be out riding anyways, at least doing something for work I can get paid for it. They are also paying for gas, mileage, and me hourly at overtime of time-and-a-half. 10 1/2hours. Almost 2hrs were actually spent working on the equipment.

jerome wrote:Yup. Just like cancer used to be known as "consumption". They didn't die of cancer, they died of consumption. Language is wierd. At least English anyways. I don't know enough of any others to say the same about them. From what little I know about Spanish, it seems to make sense most of the time (rules and such).

I went on a 400mile motorcycle ride today, and got paid for doing it. I volunteered myself for a service call to some place about 200 miles from where I live. I figured I'd be out riding anyways, at least doing something for work I can get paid for it. They are also paying for gas, mileage, and me hourly at overtime of time-and-a-half. 10 1/2hours. Almost 2hrs were actually spent working on the equipment.


Yes, I agree, English is strange. I know a good bit of Latin, and it makes sense most of the time. Every now and then there's a very strange grammar rule, but for the most part, it's extremely logical.

You got payed to motorcycle? Sounds fun.

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Yeah I'm awesome because I posted a picture of my squad with the light bar on. The van style squad next to me is a piece. I <3 my box truck.