Dechipher wrote:What if we just had a huge ass lens, and you put the CD disc on top of it, and that was that? No spinning, no anything. Just a big fucking lens, and the top of the cd connects to the lid, thus holding it in place.I... are you serious? I mean maybe you just never paid any attention but do you have any idea how lasers work?Someone tell me why that wouldn't work.
Major Video Game Companies...ftl
Shazza Dani wrote:I never held an original Xbox controller, but I imagine I wouldn't like it since the 360 controller is perfect for me.
That thing is a monster.
It's just slightly larger, hardly a "monster".
The xbox logo took up like a fucking 5th of the controller. xD
I think the Xbox controller is about is big as the Wii itself. Sad.
Masamune wrote:The xbox logo took up like a fucking 5th of the controller. xD
Unless you'r using your right thumb to operate the left thumbstick, this has no relevance at all. The controller was the result of ergonomics research, and the logo was put there to take up unused space.
Russell wrote:I think the Xbox controller is about is big as the Wii itself. Sad.
Not everyone has spindly little girl hands and needs a fisher price controller the size of a keychain in order to play video games. Some of us have big manly hands that feel very comfortable when wrapped around the xbox controller. FYI the average gamer is an adult male, not a school girl.
Beldaran wrote:Unless you'r using your right thumb to operate the left thumbstick, this has no relevance at all. The controller was the result of ergonomics research, and the logo was put there to take up unused space.
More like unnecessary space. The controller didn't need to be as wide as four football fields.
Beldaran wrote:Not everyone has spindly little girl hands and needs a fisher price controller the size of a keychain in order to play video games. Some of us have big manly hands that feel very comfortable when wrapped around the xbox controller. FYI the average gamer is an adult male, not a school girl.
Not everyone has big manly hands that feel very comfortable when wrapped around the xbox controller. Some of us have spindly little girl hands and need a fisher price controller the size of a keychain in order to play video games. ;]
Shazza Dani wrote: The controller didn't need to be as wide as four football fields.
1 inch = 4 football fields?
Beldaran wrote:1 inch = 4 football fields?
0.002 cents = 0.002 dollars
Beldaran wrote:Unless you'r using your right thumb to operate the left thumbstick, this has no relevance at all. The controller was the result of ergonomics research, and the logo was put there to take up unused space.
Yeah, but some people like to have access to all the buttons without having to leave the time zone they're in. 😉 Plus I always hated how the left analogue stick is so fucking high up on the X-Box 360 controllers.
PS3 = fail.
PS3 controller = win.
therefore PS3 controller = fail also. 😞
Beldaran wrote:1 inch = 4 football fields?
I speak in hyperbole. It's a very prevalent part of my idiolect. Now you've gone and made me explain it… =[
Gleeok wrote:Yeah, but some people like to have access to all the buttons without having to leave the time zone they're in.
I have played video games for 20 years. I have never had to use my left hand to push buttons that are on the right side of the controller. Ever.
The Xbox controller is perfectly convenient and usable. Anyone who hates it is displaying irrational bias. I have never seen anyone make a reasoned argument against the xbox controller without using gross overstatements of proportions that defy reality, making a philosophical statement about Microsoft, or claiming the controller makes it difficult do things that no one in the history of games has ever had to do.
It's too big. There, that's not a gross overstatement.
And, yes, I do frequently use the opposite hand to press buttons on the controller. Sometimes I multitask, dammit. I can't have both hands tied to a videogame controller.
1, the controller is thick and bulky
2, it is hard to "grip" the controller as you have less space to wrap remaining fingers around the bottom bumps or whatever you call them...
3, xbox 360 is the xbox controller except done correctly with both above issues resolved.
Beldaran wrote: I have never seen anyone make a reasoned argument against the xbox controller without using gross overstatements of proportions that defy reality, making a philosophical statement about Microsoft, or claiming the controller makes it difficult do things that no one in the history of games has ever had to do.
The X Box controller is so big ...(how big is it?)... The X Box controller is so big that you need a separate controller just to control it. :P
I must admit - I have nothing against Microsoft, but I, too, found the Xbox controller to be a little large and unwieldy for my tastes. Did it directly interfere with my ability to play games? No, but it was a bit uncomfortable, and I did have a little trouble with the face buttons. Okay, to be fair, yes, my hands are a bit on the puny side, not everyone has big ol' beef slab hands, but I don't really have control over that.
I must just be a superior gamer then, since it never hindered my playing one bit.
Y'know, that's probably true. I didn't even like the change from the NES controller to the SNES controller, which I think is a cardinal sin among gamers.
Well, there's one good thing about the Xbox controller. It's nothing compared to the Nintendo 64 controller. I'm stil not quite sure how to hold it.
Yes, but in Nintendo's defense... wasn't the N64 controller like, the first ever controller like that? In other words, wasn't it the first console controller to feature a thumbstick and a d-pad, etc? So I think they were charting new territory there, and then Sony refined it with the PSX and PS2.
Anyway, I just hate all the rabid Xbox controller hating, because I really liked that controller I just think you'd have to be functionally retarded for it to hinder your gaming. It's extremely comfortable and "solid".
I like the Xbox controller 100x more than the GameCube controller. That thing was so small and awkward, and the buttons were smeared all over in a circle. I just did not like it at all. Very unintuitive.
Oddly, the GameCube controller is still my favorite controller of them all, by far. I won't even touch a Wii controller or nunchuck if I can use a GameCube controller instead, considering that all I really play is SSBM/SSBB when it comes down to it.
I didn't really like the N64 controller because I was never really sure where to hold it, initially, and then, when I thought I had found the correct holding stance, I had to reach over to flip some buttons I had hoped I would never have to tweak due to that configuration.
I never really had much of a problem with any XBox/360 controller. I'm sure it'd become a naturally accepted comfort configuration whenever you get used to it, of course. If it doesn't, well, I suppose it's a rare case.
The 360 controller is just about perfect to me. It's just the right size to fit comfortably in my hands. The PS2/3 controller is too small and there isn't enough to hold on to. My only real complaint with the 360 controller is the location of the bumper buttons - I feel like I have to move my hand every time I press one. The dpad on it, which most people complain about, doesn't bother me as I never use it.
The one thing I like about the wiimote+nunchuck scheme is the fact that you don't have to have your hands together. When playing Mario Galaxy I sat with my arms slack at my sides, which I find a lot more comfortable than holding them forwards and together. I hope the next generation of consoles all have controllers that can be held apart like that.
To hold the Nintendo 64 controller, it varies from game to game, depending on whether or not you use the control stick or dpad. For instance, in Zelda, you hold the right and center handles. In Kirby, you hold the right and left handles.
As for new controllers, I personally like the Wii Remote and Nunchuck best. Even if you're not pointing at anything, it just feels more natural.
Beldaran wrote:Yes, but in Nintendo's defense... wasn't the N64 controller like, the first ever controller like that? In other words, wasn't it the first console controller to feature a thumbstick and a d-pad, etc? So I think they were charting new territory there, and then Sony refined it with the PSX and PS2.
Yes, the N64 sparked Sony to develop their "Dualshock" gamepad. Basically they had to add rumble and analog in order to keep pace with Nintendo. Sega also developed an analog controller for Sega Saturn that was included with Nights into Dreams and branded as the 3D Controller.
rock_nog wrote:Y'know, that's probably true. I didn't even like the change from the NES controller to the SNES controller, which I think is a cardinal sin among gamers.
Gah, the SNES controller was awesome, so is the ps2 controller, xbox360 and gamecube one. The n64 was easy enough to use and was awesome :P only problem is the joystick wears out after like 6 months of good usage.
I still have my N64 controller that came with the system, from like nine years ago. The analogue stick still works. It's fairly worn, true, but I can still play games without it acting weird.
rock_nog wrote:I do sometimes wonder - I've got my NES which is upwards of 20 years old, and it still works. What are the odds of a 360 working 20 years from now? Also, kinda makes me think - given the changes between the NES and now, I can't imagine what gaming will be like in 20 years.
It depends on who you ask.
Ray Kurzweil: Video games won't exist because humanity will have transferred to living inside of virtual worlds over which they have complete, god-like control. Technically, every moment of your life will be like playing a Video Game! Also we'll be immortal, and 20 years is a perfectly realistic target for this utopia. Singularity, Singularity, Transhumanism, Bill Joy, Relinquishment, blah blah blah.
Jack Thompson: Video games won't exist because I'll have banned them! *goes back to playing with his Barbie dolls*
It's not like the N64 controller was so hard to figure out how to hold it. I got my N64 when I was like 10 and I knew how to hold it right out of the box. Besides, every one knows you never needed to use the d-pad or the L button.
Shazza Dani wrote:I still have my N64 controller that came with the system, from like nine years ago. The analogue stick still works. It's fairly worn, true, but I can still play games without it acting weird.
It's not that it stops working, its that you eventually can't run in games like zelda 64 etc. because it losses the pressure because the powder in the joystick part is grinded to a fine dust eventually....
the gamecube and ps2 controllers etc. i believe use a liquid in there joysticks.
franpa wrote:Gah, the SNES controller was awesome, so is the ps2 controller, xbox360 and gamecube one. The n64 was easy enough to use and was awesome :P only problem is the joystick wears out after like 6 months of good usage.
I've had my original N64 controllers that came with the system at launch...never had this issue.
I don't understand. A lot of my friends joysticks broke, but they always threw them around, stepped on them, etc.
I know. 😞 I hate it when people abuse controllers. When I see people drop a controller upside down on the floor and just leave them there, upside down, I can't help but go over and turn them right-side up, at the very least. I mean that's just terrible. >.< Why abuse your stuff like that?