Glenn the Great wrote:a bunch of stuff
Glenn, does it ever bother you to know that you're a jaded, soulless shell of a human being? Really, I feel bad for you, and people like you who have no trust or hope of finding trust in others. I certainly don't blame you for your dismal outlook on life, but I certainly wonder what sort of events turned you into the person you are. You scoff and mock when people say you're going to end up alone years from now, but have you ever stopped to consider that maybe the problem is not society, or the human race, but perhaps yourself?
Oy.
So, I got called by a co-worker yesterday a little after midnight, and got asked to cover his shift (8am-4pm). His grandmother was in the hospital, and since he lives with her, it was sort of a big deal. Fine by me; I would be glad to swap my afternoons with him and spend the evening with my family. Except he never came, and I had to stay at work from 8AM to midnight. Anybody else have a totally boring fourth of july?
{DSG}DarkRaven wrote:So, I got called by a co-worker yesterday a little after midnight, and got asked to cover his shift (8am-4pm). His grandmother was in the hospital, and since he lives with her, it was sort of a big deal. Fine by me; I would be glad to swap my afternoons with him and spend the evening with my family. Except he never came, and I had to stay at work from 8AM to midnight. Anybody else have a totally boring fourth of july?
Yup. Did nothing and it sucked.
I was at work. Mind, we don't celebrate July 4th, so nobody cared.
...god, I wish I was unemployed again. Physical work sucks. I'd rather be in a part-time job doing admin then what basically amounts to full-time shelf stacking. Remind me not to work for Tesco again.
On the subject of fourth of July, well, mine was great compared to last years sucky one. See, we just got this new "no civilian firework law" passed last year, right. So, my dad, brother and I all went out and at K-Mart bought one of those big boxes of shiny, exploding stuff, expecting, that we'd get some pretty cool sparkly stuff like the year before. Turns out it all smokes. Everything. Smoke. The little round things? Smoke. The small cylinder? Smoke. The big canister? More smoke, but smoke nontheless. Needless to say, it was a dissapointment. But this year, we went to Indiana, stopped of by the "worlds largest fireworks warehous"(I believe them. You had to see this place) and got stuff that not only sparked, but flew up in the air. If you've been raised in a state where that's legal, well, it's no big deal. But it was really cool for us.
On the subject of the job, I got a job at the local Renassaince Faire.:kawaii: All of my friends work there, it's supposed to be a fun job, and the pay is decent. (100 bucks a weekend) If for any reason, any of you are by Bristol, Wisconsin, stop by and see it, because it really is an amazing place. Like, literally a whole town built like it was in the ye olde 1500's.
I was going to goto a party at a friend's but it got cancelled because of sudden rain. :sweat:
^^Rain during summer? Never in Los Angeles.
Amaster42 wrote:On the subject of fourth of July, well, mine was great compared to last years sucky one. See, we just got this new "no civilian firework law"
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Honestly! Those laws are effing stupid. Just because ONE little boy/girl or some other person got a limb blown off or a 3rd degree burn, does not mean it should be ruined for the rest of us. (I don't care if it IS a sparkler, if it's warmer than the cement on a hot day, do NOT give it to a 9 (and below) year old!)
majoras_wrath wrote:Honestly! Those laws are effing stupid. Just because ONE little boy/girl or some other person got a limb blown off or a 3rd degree burn, does not mean it should be ruined for the rest of us. (I don't care if it IS a sparkler, if it's warmer than the cement on a hot day, do NOT give it to a 9 (and below) year old!)
It's not just one little boy or girl that burns a body part to the extent they need a skin graft. It's people that launch fireworks off in their back yards and end up setting trees and houses on fire.
Go get your facts straight before you bitch.
biggiy05 wrote:It's not just one little boy or girl that burns a body part to the extent they need a skin graft. It's people that launch fireworks off in their back yards and end up setting trees and houses on fire.
Go get your facts straight before you bitch.
This is exactly what you have to watch out for. There was a house in the city here that had a firework launched onto the roof and it caught on fire. The roof partially collapsed and now they are saying there was so much damage the house must be demolished. It may put a damper on some people's festivities, but unfortunately many people are not responsible enough to use them properly without hurting or damaging something.
For sheezy, or something. Someone around the block from me was launching fireworks through the leaves of the trees that they so incredibly obviously had on their property. Through the freaking leaves.
I was working from ten to six on the Fourth. Saw fifteen minutes of fireworks by the bridge, then went back inside to post. :kitty:
I'm not really for these laws, and I've read the local paper quoting the County Sheriff (Macomb Co., MI) as saying he doesn't support them either, on account of how he'd have to arrest all his neighbors. Most police forces, as far as I have ever seen, will not enforce them unless you are being wreckless with explosives, like shooting roman candles at cars, or something. If you live in a state where good fireworks are illegal, odds are you still live within reasonable driving distance of a state where they are not. You know what I mean.
They do have a purpose though, and in states where fireworks are cause for legitimate forest fire concern, I definitely understand why they exist. On the other hand, if you're dumb enough to blow part or all of yourself up, the least your home state could do would be to allow it to be very pretty.
In Southeast Michigan, last week, some lady killed herself at work. The employees at the car wash took up a collection, bought some fireworks, and she leaned over a three inch shell for some reason. Gore galore. Those sorts of fireworks should be very illegal to purchase by people without permits, I agree. But most of the regular stuff that people like doesn't pose that sort of lethal threat.
DarkRaven ... the one you're talking about at the end of your post... was a commercial grade 3 inch mortar (as I've read it's description over on CNN but I can't find the article again). It had 25+ items in it's casing. Apparently the first one blew her face/head off (because she was leaning OVER IT when she lit it) and then the rest started going off. At that point no one could get close for fear of being injured.
She died in front of her fiancee AND her 8 year old son... plus every one else that was there.
I can't say she deserved what happened... but it WAS a commercial grade firework/s. Jeesh!!
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EDIT: I found this article... http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/301299/feds_investigate_michigan_fireworks.html
New York has laws banning fireworks, but everyone has them. The police really won't do anything about it because so many people have them. The only time they get involved is when someone complains or they know someone has bought an large amount of fireworks. For example, a guy was trying to get a permit to block off his street for the 4th and they found out he bought somewhere in the insane range of $12,000 in fireworks. They didn't grant him the permit for the road block.
I really don't know what to think myself. It's nice to see people following tradition with celebrating the 4th, but then again it can be so dangerous. I personally just don't think I could ever spend the money on nice fireworks anyway, so I guess personally I don't mind the laws.
I have many fond memories of launching fireworks as a kid so I strongly oppose anti-fireworks laws. It frustrates me to think my children probably won't be able to enjoy the slightly burnt fingers and sulfer-stained clothes I associate with the fourth. I agree that launching cheaply assembled explosive devices into the air has some inherent risks, but I think the thrills/memories far outweigh the potential for injury.
In a nutshell, there is something about the carnage/excitement that launching fireworks instills that I think is fitting of a holiday celebrating the United States forceful departure from an oppressor.
That said, I especially appreciate the firefighters and police officers of the city during this time of year. There are a lot of careless people without common sense they unfortunately have to clean up after. 😞
Bah, people know the risks. The idea of banning fireworks is ridiculous, like we need to be protected from ourselves or something. That always pisses me off, when the government decides that I'm too stupid to look after myself. And yes, some people do get hurt, but I know the risks and I know how to be responsible.
4th - I worked all day.
Today, apparently the police shot a man in the head a few blocks from my store. No one knows why, I've heard the word on the street and I've heard the word from an officer, but he was just quoting the news.
rain - we're on our 23rd straight day of rain in Oklahoma, the previous record being 14.
Glenn, there's a time and a place for everything, including watching for someone's 'sensitives'. There's no absolute, it's a blend of when to be an ass and when not to, and that was a time when not to.
Prrkitty wrote:She died in front of her fiancee AND her 8 year old son... plus every one else that was there. I can't say she deserved what happened... but it WAS a commercial grade firework/s. Jeesh!!
She certainly did not deserve to die, of course. But it was a dumb thing to do, which is why only trained professionals should be allowed to use high explosives. It's just common sense. Thanks for posting the link.
Decipher, send some of that precipitation my way. We had approximately an inch and a half of rain in June, I think. It all passed south of me and fell on the rest of Michigan. Our garden is dying, and I can't imagine how real farmers must be doing. We don't even have enough water in the water table to regularly water things ourselves.
My new widescreen lcd showed up earlier this morning. 19" of widescreen goodness.
Time to go finish watching Scrubs.
So basically, what you are saying, is that I should judge myself by what others think of me?
For example, if others think that I am an ass, then I am somehow a problem, meaning thus that I'm in the wrong?
I once read that people with co-dependent personalities see themselves through the eyes of others. That might be you, but it isn't me.
I'm not going to be tricked into conforming to society's mores of political correctness by letting people's sensitivities concern me.
^^Hitler thought that he was doing the right thing.
Glenn the Great wrote:So basically, what you are saying, is that I should judge myself by what others think of me?For example, if others think that I am an ass, then I am somehow a problem, meaning thus that I'm in the wrong?
I once read that people with co-dependent personalities see themselves through the eyes of others. That might be you, but it isn't me.
I'm not going to be tricked into conforming to society's mores of political correctness by letting people's sensitivities concern me.
That's exactly what we're saying, Glenn. But we are not saying that you should do so exclusively, or carry that judgement as the most important. We're simply saying that society calls you a jerk sometimes, and it's very childish for you to counter by calling us co-dependent, politically correct, over sensitive conformists.
Nobody is trying to trick you. It's just bad form to make jokes when people you aren't close to die, especially in the presence of someone who was close to the decedent. If you don't want to accept societal standards, that's fine. Just don't complain when people get grumpy because you're rude and you don't care.
The problem in Kenosha is that our police do enforce the fireworks laws. We are a fifteen minuite drive from Illinois, though...
Yeah, my great uncle is a licensed pyrotechnician who owns a couple factories, and at big family gatherings, we leave all of the big stuff to him.
Glenn, please don't joke about death.
{DSG}DarkRaven wrote:That's exactly what we're saying, Glenn.
I love it when I get the confirmation that my intuition is correct.
We're simply saying that society calls you a jerk sometimes, and it's very childish for you to counter by calling us co-dependent, politically correct, over sensitive conformists.
Well, I think it's childish of you to be calling me childish.
Read that a few times and think on it.
If you act childish and get called childish, then it says nothing of the person who called you childish, that person just made a good observation.
phattonez wrote:If you act childish and get called childish, then it says nothing of the person who called you childish, that person just made a good observation.
So by that logic, I made a good observation by calling you guys co-dependent, politically correct, over-sensitive conformists?
If that's correct. If you're wrong, then it's not a good observation.
Really, I don't even know what you're fighting about. I'm just butting in to point out a few things.
phattonez believes in god and therefore cannot be taken seriously in a discussion of logic.
With regards to fireworks, I think they should be super legal. Even the insanely dangerous ones that kill people. There's nothing I enjoy more than a good darwin award.
Beldaran rules out all answers that aren't his own, and therefore cannot be taken seriously in a discussion of logic.
Glenn, I'm giving you an inch and you're going a mile. What I said was that sometimes one must suppress their own thoughts or opinions for the good of another. That's not codependency, but courtesy. There's this thing called compassion. It's what validates the human existence. I'm not saying you have to be a little bitch 24/7, but I am saying that there should be a balanced blend of push and pull.
That's all I'm saying.
A look at most of the $1200 in fireworks I will be using to blow up part of Ohio tomorrow night:
Dechipher wrote:Beldaran rules out all answers that aren't his own, and therefore cannot be taken seriously in a discussion of logic.
I rule out all answers for which there is no scientific evidence. I see that you still don't understand something as simple as science and basic skepticism.