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[5th Quest Entry] Nightmare

93 replies · 108,301 views · Started 31 August 2013

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It's been no secret, I've been sitting on this for about 2 weeks, just changed the Overworld, and it's done.

Video playlist (for those who want to judge and don't have much time): http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZg6iQHFIdmjZfOnxdBFunPKBaUoN6JUO
Original Link: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/90050799/5thnightmare.zip
Final version: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/90050799/5thnightmare-final.zip
Demo tiles version is now taken down due to the quest going final, sorry guys.

As an overall note, I was relatively disgusted by the way the 4th Quest deviated from the Zelda 1 formula too much and went to design a mostly hardcore quest with a few new changes. I accentuated the new flags, put in Golden Rupee items, and added a few new items and enemies here and there (say hello to sword-throwing Darknuts!). I also went for large dungeon sizes over small to challenge the player and see how they do over the long run.

Enjoy!

-James

I've started in on this and played through the first dungeon. My only concern is the Digdogger I was unable to battle at this point. Did I miss the whistle or am I supposed to come back later?

Overworld bug: The classic screen to Level 3 still leads to Level 3. In fact, it's using the original warp criteria. That's not the entrance to Level 3, though, so you end up stuck in a wall. Can be fixed by changing the warp type, most likely.

Finished Dungeon 2 (thanks for the pointer about the white sword), started Dungeon 3, but had to stop. I'll try to play more tomorrow.

Nightmare wrote:Right here, where are you stuck?

-James

Actually, I just finished level 1. I now have to find level 2.

Also, found the white sword, but need an extra heart container... Are there any freebies around?

Plus... I keep dying... please tell me there is a secret shop i can buy the blue ring at!

Level 2 is where a familiar level was in the 1st Quest. Use a different method of opening the entrance. As the clue says "Old Secrets Die Hard."

If you're looking for free Hearts, go into 2, get the Blue Candle, and go searching in the Lost Woods. 😊

Blue Ring isn't avaiable until Level 4'ish, and it's not in a shop anymore.

-James

Nightmare wrote:Level 2 is where a familiar level was in the 1st Quest. Use a different method of opening the entrance. As the clue says "Old Secrets Die Hard."

If you're looking for free Hearts, go into 2, get the Blue Candle, and go searching in the Lost Woods. 😊

Blue Ring isn't avaiable until Level 4'ish, and it's not in a shop anymore.

-James

Nope, still cant find level 2...

Its not where level 1 is... all there is there is a tree. Its not where level 2 is... all there is a pond... Its not where level 3 is.. theres a shop. Its not where level 5 is... thats a fairy... Its not where level 6 is... theres an empty room.

On the plus side, I found level 4 in the graveyard... but Im not going in there just yet...

Any chance you can be a little more specific where level 2 is?

Well, you can't access Lv. 4 and 7, they're still blocked off. Did you try 8? And it's not by whistling or using candles. You need to find a new way to get in (which I'm not telling)

-James

Chop!

Great... Now Im stuck in level 2... Wall of bushes....

Ahhhhhh.... which tree do I burn for free stuff?

NVM found it!

Level 3 now...

really need to find that power bracelet...

Found a problem.

Level 3 Room 70 (lower left corner of the map, past the two-head Gleeok)

There's a room with three perma-item jinx bubbles and a L2 Push block that reveals stairs. The stairs lead to an empty item room (I think you intended a passageway).

CJC wrote:Found a problem.

Level 3 Room 70 (lower left corner of the map, past the two-head Gleeok)

There's a room with three perma-item jinx bubbles and a L2 Push block that reveals stairs. The stairs lead to an empty item room (I think you intended a passageway).

Oh man, these guys are real hard ass Zelda players to find all these bugs.... I cant even find the power bracelet!

I think Ive found a bug now too... In level 3. In the room to the north of the blue hydra, once youve killed all the enemies... you can push the bottom right block... but nothing happens!

Still no sign of the power bracelet tho! \just seems as though theres no way of progressing...

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I still cant find where Im going in this level... any hints on what I have to do!

Remember that room you encountered with the four shutters? It's pretty close to the entrance, actually. If you go north, the old man (In Zelda 1 that character's name is Abei) will tell you that strange enemies hold the secret. This is the hint. When progressing in the direction you can travel without the bracelet (which is currently the only direction you can travel) you will encounter a room with rabbits (Pol's Voice), knights (Darknuts), and some other kind of enemy (can't remember which). Note the solitary bush in the corner of this room.

Do NOT fight the enemies. Instead, avoid them and burn the bush with your blue candle. The Power Bracelet is within.

When progressing in the direction you can travel without the bracelet (which is currently the only direction you can travel) you will encounter a room with rabbits (Pol's Voice), knights (Darknuts), and some other kind of enemy (can't remember which). Note the solitary bush in the corner of this room.

Which direction is this in? Cant find the room... From the old man, what are the directions? Yep, thats where Im going wrong... Cant find that room!

Joki81 wrote:Which direction is this in? Cant find the room... From the old man, what are the directions? Yep, thats where Im going wrong... Cant find that room!

From the room with the Vires (immediately south of the room with the old man)...
[Get the ladder first. If you do not have it yet, I'll walk you through that in a subsequent post]

Push block to go East, Bomb North, Travel North, Clear room and go West, Use ladder then clear room and go North, burn bush in corner.

CJC wrote:From the room with the Vires (immediately south of the room with the old man)...
[Get the ladder first. If you do not have it yet, I'll walk you through that in a subsequent post]

Push block to go East, Bomb North, Travel North, Clear room and go West, Use ladder then clear room and go North, burn bush in corner.

Nope, dont have the ladder yet! Thats why I'm stuck! Where do I find it?

I got the clue about secrets being where fairies live, but have found nothing at the fairy locations... must be missing something obvious?

So where is the ladder then? Been searching all day for it... no luck...

Joki81 wrote:So where is the ladder then? Been searching all day for it... no luck...

Okay, from the room with the old man, go east and then continue going north as much as you can. Eventually you will reach a room with ponds on both sides. Press against the north wall and you will pass through it. Clearing THIS room reveals a staircase which (as I can remember it) holds the ladder.

Left side of the dungeon, look for a room with a Blue Wizzrobe to find the Boss Key.

The one was a bug, but generally, you need the Letter to get the Old Woman to say something.

-James

Nightmare wrote:Left side of the dungeon, look for a room with a Blue Wizzrobe to find the Boss Key.

The one was a bug, but generally, you need the Letter to get the Old Woman to say something.

-James

I cant access the top left of level 3's map. Is there a route I need to follow?