...that it just might work.
I'm sure most of us are slightly disappointed that such a powerful program duo, Zelda Classic and ZQuest, aren't very well-known. The best way to promote Zelda Classic to the mass public would be to advertise, right? But how?
Everyone grab a copy of Nintendo Power (if you subscribe) and flip to the Community section in the back. The Community section of Nintendo Power features creations, Miis, tattoos, etc. that fellow Nintendo Power subscribers submit. I'm almost certain we'd be able to get Zelda Classic printed in this section. Somebody (like myself) could e-mail Nintendo Power (which is perhaps drafted here) and provide all kinds of information about Zelda Classic. If we actually do e-mail Nintendo Power, I think it would be best to do so directly after the release of 2.5. We'd also have to emphasize that Zelda Classic is not a ROM/emulator combo. The only possible barrier I see is some sort of "copyright infringement" of Zelda Classic, but ZC is indeed perfectly legal, correct?
Anyway, the writers of Nintendo Power arrange a nice little article about ZC, maybe throw in some screens or even a URL, and BAM!! — instant advertising.
Even more so, we should send them several, if not several dozen well written, thought out letters. Show that we have numbers, not just some backwater program, eh?
I'd send one.
I agree, the more the merrier. I've been a subscriber for around 5 years, so I actually know what you're talking about:tongue:.
I believe this happened in the Oct. 2005 issue, actually.
Was it? My first issue was January 2006, so I'd have no idea. Bobrocks95, do you keep your issues (I ask because you say you've been a subscriber for 5 years)? If so, could you check?
I'm on the case, I hope it really has been 5 years....
EDIT: I'm good here, pulled out a random issue and it was May '04. I'll keep looking.
Nope, nothing in the October '05 issue, or at least not in the community section.
I'll check the January 2006 issues and beyond to divide work. I'll post the results in a minute or so.
So this would definitely be in the community section? If you don't find anything Pineconn, I'll check some older issues.
Where else would it be?
Nothing in January 2006 and up. I'll double check.
Well, Community wasn't even introduced until a little bit after the design change(once the covers started getting all glossy), and the design change's first issue talked about Twilight Princess, so I'm going to say that it hasn't been in Nintendo Power.
That was EGM that had Zelda Classic featured, not Nintendo Power. There was one screenshot from one of Exate's quests, 2 sentences, and a website link.
But even still, drawing in a bunch of users that makes Nintendo see Zelda Classic as a way to make money, they take it over, and ZC goes to hell (If it hasn't already...)? No thanks...
Maybe it's just me that feels this, but everything just seems to go to crap once it stops being humble.
Doesn't ZC have some kind of protection from Nintendo 'taking over'? I mean, they couldn't just walk in and say: "Zelda Classic belongs to us now, and we're going to make people download it for $20 every update", could they?
Unless there's some legal bullshit that I don't know about concerning ZC and Nintendo, "The Legend of Zelda" and all associated copyrights are held by Nintendo. So far as I understand it, if they really wanted to, they could come in and say "Either give us the program and we're going to charge people to use it, or we'll sue you for millions and get ZC shut down". The only real reason ZC exists at all is because Nintendo really doesn't care mostly due to the userbase being relatively small.
Basically, the moment that Nintendo could make a dime off of it, say goodbye to ZC...
That makes a lot of sense, as ZC is a perfect copy of the original Legend of Zelda.
Hm. This could work, but I forsee one problem. If we do that, and ZC gets big, Nintendo could easily use their copyright on the Zelda franchise to gain control of ZC. Overall, it's somewhat risky to wave ZC right under Nintendo's nose, so I would say don't do it. As soon as Nintendo relizes they can make money off of ZC, the good ole ZC days are over.
But still, Zelda Classic is not a ROM since it was built from the ground up. Do you really think Nintendo would take legal action if we e-mail it to Nintendo Power?
If anything, the ESA would get involved (they are who are responsible for taking all Mario, Zelda, and other popular Nintendo ROMs off the Internet). The ESA has actually threatened to sue ROM websites if they didn't remove certain ROMs.
Pineconn wrote:But still, Zelda Classic is not a ROM since it was built from the ground up. Do you really think Nintendo would take legal action if we e-mail it to Nintendo Power?
I think Nintendo would probably say "We want to market this program and get 95% of the money". Nintendo knows ZC exists. But they're not doing anything since it's not that big of a thing. If it got advertised to everyone who reads Nintendo Power, Nintendo might start getting some ideas.
I cna DEFINETELY confirm that ZC was featured in a Gaming Mag.
How am I so sure? That's what got me on here. :P
Exactly. If ZC was already featured in a huge gaming magazine and Nintendo did nothing about it, I'm confident that featuring ZC in NP won't make a difference. As long we make ourselves as humble as possible, they won't care.
Okay then, submit it or whatever you have to do. But if ZC gets taken over by Nintendo, you are responsible for it.
I agree that ZC needs to be more well-known, but I'm a bit scared of it being advertised in Nintendo Power. I could see Nintendo not wanting to advertise a free and more powerful version of the game they're selling on Virtual Console and maybe still for GBA. And if they try to use their copyright on Zelda to get the rights to ZC, I could see ZC having to rename itself to "Blornjoomia Classic" or something equally lame and hastily change all the graphics to follow the adventures of Spink in Byrule trying to save Princess Blornjoomia from Cannon. I once saw a fan project for another game series have to do stuff like that.
This is only tangentially related to the thread, but I was working in ZQuest at work today and someone was like "That's an interesting thing to do while you're here." or some such. So I told him about ZC. Everyone knows what Zelda is (well, a lot of people know), but few people have ever heard of ZC.
Nintendo can't really do anything about Zelda Classic, other than say "hey, stop using our graphics." And that is simply a matter of not packing Zelda graphics with ZQuest, yet still making them easily available.
The reason for this is simple... Zelda Classic is a homebrew game engine, not a direct copy of the game. The first quest that comes packaged with ZC is, but ZC itself isn't.
Gotta love copyright law ^_^
I think if Nintendo wanted to shut down ZC, they wouldn't have too much hassle doing it...
Just they don't.
Joe123 wrote:I think if Nintendo wanted to shut down ZC, they wouldn't have too much hassle doing it...
Just they don't.
They don't now, but if it had a sudden popularity boom, they might.
Heh, rather sinister =P
When ZC starts becoming profitable is when Nintendo will shut it down.
Joe123 wrote:Heh, rather sinister =P
When ZC starts becoming profitable is when Nintendo will shut it down.
And if it gets advertized in Nintendo Power, chances are it will get profitable and Nintendo will shut it down. That's why I think it's a bad idea.
Revfan9 wrote:That was EGM that had Zelda Classic featured, not Nintendo Power. There was one screenshot from one of Exate's quests, 2 sentences, and a website link.But even still, drawing in a bunch of users that makes Nintendo see Zelda Classic as a way to make money, they take it over, and ZC goes to hell (If it hasn't already...)? No thanks...
Maybe it's just me that feels this, but everything just seems to go to crap once it stops being humble.
nintendo could sue for ripping the original graphics, but i think thats all they could do.
I think, we just need to stop scaring people away from using the latest alpha/beta for quest building and playing quests with. that way 2.5 will actually come to fruition before the end of 2008.
more people use it = larger debugging group.
Revfan9 wrote:That was EGM that had Zelda Classic featured, not Nintendo Power. There was one screenshot from one of Exate's quests, 2 sentences, and a website link.
EGM, eh? My mistake.
You guys should flag the devs over here. I'm sure they would have something to say.