Sonic CONFIRMED for Brawl!

Geno was cool because he was a chill dude who could throw down if necessary. Plus he was a fucking star.

It was basically down to him or the marshmellow. No contest.

But Geno was a friggin' talking puppet. He was the video game equivalent to Pinocchio. Plus he was in one game that wasn"t even developed by Nintendo --- a game that I should add, probably 60% of SSBB's playbase will not have even heard of (remember, not everyone grew up on SNES :P).

In any case, Geno is *not* main character material. If anything else, he can be an assist trophy. But I sort of doubt he'll even be that.

lmao, I'm so sick of reading about Geno.

Megaman, I really think will get it. I was really hoping that Mike Jones and any other Star Tropics references would make it [even as assist trophies].

Did anyone see the videos with Sonic fighting Link, and his Final Smash being Super Sonic [which looked INCREDIBLY CHEAP, btw] and the one with Samus fighting Mario? Not only does it prove true that the N64 style character intros are back, but that the gameplay seems a bit slower [like the N64 version].

As for the new date, of course I don't want to wait any further, but it seems that they're seriously adding so much. Just the little things make it better and better [like today's update with the screenshots in pause menu, brilliant]. And besides, I've already got my copy reserved, so I'm all set for February.

Yeah, as far as 3rd party characters go, these are the few I feel have a real good chance:

Mega Man - like you said, he'd be great. Capcom has already done a few arcade fighters with him (Power Battle/Fighters) and he is perfectly suited for the game. Heh, you know it'd even be funny if they could find a way to simulate his ability to aquire new weapons in a Kirby-like way.

Simon Belmont - Well Konami is already on board, and frankly Simon is practically a Nintendo mascot as it is. The guy was in three Castlevanias on Nintendo systems (in fact, if you don't include remakes of the original Castlevania, I believe *all* of his appearances were on Nintendo systems), the Captain N cartoon, and all around he would be an interesting and excellent addition with his whip and sub-items as his moves (personally I go with up-smash being Axe, sideways being Cross, and down being Holy Water.. Block would be the whip spin 😃 Though I don't know if there is some rule that up needs to also be the recovery move :P)

Pac-Man - Mainly just because Nintendo and Namco have such a close relationship and he is a video game icon. It's a bit hard to say what his moves would be though, which makes him a bit iffy.

Well, I saw that video of Sonic VS link, and... I'm sure there's a disadvantage to Super sonic. Plus, I'm sure you can dodge it.

😞 My best friend LOVES to toy with me like that. I grab a star in melee, he manges to play keep away for the whole 30 seconds. I never got close.

Yeah, he's problably gonna LOVE to torment me with that...*grabs smash ball, and never makes a single hit.*

And Warlock...that post wins for the sole fact that you mentioned captain N. 😊

characters I might want to see: Megaman, Bomberman, Simon belmont (maybe), Black mage or moogle (come on! they're cool, no?) and...well..I'm not against Sora, but...If he gets in, they damn better nerf him a bit, becase he's the most overpowered character in existance. He took on Sephiroth and won, so I think that proves my point.

Bomberman also works since Nintendo is very close with Hudson now, but I dunno, he just doesn't seem as likely to me.

But I don't think ANY Square characters are going to show up - especially those who have never been on a Nintendo system (remember, Snake was in the original Metal Gear on NES, and Twin Snakes on GC 😊). Square just doesn't have a good enough relationship with Nintendo.

MasterSwordUltima wrote:I was really hoping that Mike Jones and any other Star Tropics references would make it [even as assist trophies].

High fucking five, MSU. I've been rooting for Mike from day one. I love Startropics and I think the possibilities are great for Mike's weapon changing from the Supernova to the Shooting Star and finally to the Island Yo-Yo as he takes damage.

Warlock, what they could do for Megaman is make it so that when he KOs an opponent, he can use their powers. That way it's just like in the actual Megaman games.

As for seeing Sora, etc., I distinctly recall someone from Nintendo saying specifically that, as Warlock suggested, only characters who have appeared on a Nintendo system would be eligible for inclusion in Brawl.

Riverman wrote:High fucking five, MSU. I've been rooting for Mike from day one. I love Startropics and I think the possibilities are great for Mike's weapon changing from the Supernova to the Shooting Star and finally to the Island Yo-Yo as he takes damage.

Warlock, what they could do for Megaman is make it so that when he KOs an opponent, he can use their powers. That way it's just like in the actual Megaman games.

As for seeing Sora, etc., I distinctly recall someone from Nintendo saying specifically that, as Warlock suggested, only characters who have appeared on a Nintendo system would be eligible for inclusion in Brawl.

Right, that's what I was sort of thinking. Though the problem with that is it kind of makes one of his moves obsolete until he kills someone (and potentially for the whole match). But it could always be scaled down to whoever he shot last or something like that. Maybe even make the "special move" button as a "power stealing attack" of sorts, until he gets a power.

Anyways, it did occur to me that Sora has indeed appeared on a Nintendo system (Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories, and also the upcoming DS title), but I do still think he's too much of an unknown to "the general Nintendo audience". Plus, like I said, I don't think Nintendo is close enough with Square to arrange such an inclusion.

P.S. - I'd like to see some Startropics reference too. Like you said, even if it's not as a fighter, as an Assist Trophy would rock.

I also still want to see Little Mac as a fighter 😊

Warlock wrote:I also still want to see Little Mac as a fighter 😊

See, this is why I love AGN. My top two want-to-sees for Brawl have always been Little Mac and Mike Jones.

As for Megaman, I figure his standard B move would just be his Mega Buster until he stole someone else's power, and then it would be replaced (and his color palette would change!).

How about Glover?

...chirp chirp...

Riverman wrote:See, this is why I love AGN. My top two want-to-sees for Brawl have always been Little Mac and Mike Jones.

As for Megaman, I figure his standard B move would just be his Mega Buster until he stole someone else's power, and then it would be replaced (and his color palette would change!).

Hehe, I was just thinking.. since they are doing cool stuff with the costumes this time (someone mentioned one of Link's alternate costumes is Dark Link), Mega Man's alternate costumes could be, say, Mega Man X, the Mega Man from Legends, etc. That would be awesome!

Edit:
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3163615

Assist Trophies: In a nod to the old school, Brawl brings in Assist Trophies -- special items that when activated summon up "assistants" from memorable classic games to help beat on your opponents. It's a surprising moment, when in the heat of battle the tanks from Advance Wars come out in single-file or Little Mac appears punching up a storm.

They should add alot of caracters that we all no and love,there is so many,they should have like 4 screens for picking, then it whould be on,4 screens so you can pick up to 4 versions of caracters😮ld:link,mega man,and etc.then,kinda newer,link,mega man and etc and so on,they should add alot to choose from it whould make the game funner,same old caracters over and over get a little boaring,to me after a wile.:shrug:

Warlock wrote:http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3163615

Oh no! My heart just sank. 😞

Sigh...well, there's always the next game in the series...

I really liked how the Advance Wars tanks just rushed out against Mario in that video. So good.

As for alt. costumes, I have a feeling they'll really make them special. Not just pallete swaps, but different skins, possibly even slightly different models. For instance, Link may have the Ordon Farm Clothes, the Green Tunic, Zora Armor, Magic Armor, and some form of Dark Link [If they go for 5 outfits like in Melee, however it is showing to be more like the N64 SSB, so maybe only 4].

Snake could easily have; MGS1, MGS2, Pliskin, Big Boss [in both standard Snake Eater, and Portable Ops sneaking suit], and MGS4.

Megaman has a lot of possibilities for costumes. They could go with [Megaman, MMX, MMX [MMZ Style], MM Legends, MM.EXE]. They could also go with [Megaman, Protoman, Forte, Armorless/Rock, and whomever else].

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Simon Belmont would be quite rad, but the whip thing is really overused. And that's practically all he's got going for him. Even if it his B attack, what about his regular A moves? What about his Final Smash?

Sora...I have no idea what to say. Square-Enix has been getting closer to Nintendo, what with Super Mario Strikers, or whatever game was chock full of Black and White Mages, topped with moogles. And the fact that there is gonna be the DS game coming up...who knows? Maybe this is what the delay is for?

Also, how come there haven't been any major characters from Hudson? No Adventure Island references at all? Gah. Hudson has practically 1/4 of all the games on VC too. :O

There was a Konami/Hudson/Takara Smash Bros. clone for PS2 and GC called "Dream Mix TV" that had Simon Belmont, Solid Snake, Bomberman, and Master Higgins among other characters.
http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=2018348

I'm hoping for Mega Man, Simon Belmont, and maybe Pac-Man too.

Mak-X wrote:There was a Konami/Hudson/Takara Smash Bros. clone for PS2 and GC called "Dream Mix TV" that had Simon Belmont, Solid Snake, Bomberman, and Master Higgins among other characters.
http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=2018348

I'm hoping for Mega Man, Simon Belmont, and maybe Pac-Man too.

http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/10/super-smash-bros-brawl-10-minute-video.html

10 minute Smash Bros. demo. It goes over a lot of the basics which may be unnecessary, but it's very good quality video and shows some neat stuff. I really like Pit's Final Smash... brings back memories from that game 😃

^It wont load up for me any ideas?this pc is fast and brand new so it must be my connection or does it take a few minites to load?

GamerMan wrote:^It wont load up for me any ideas?this pc is fast and brand new so it must be my connection or does it take a few minites to load?

You need the DivX plugin (which you should see as a popup to download)

Warlock wrote:You need the DivX plugin (which you should see as a popup to download)

I would like to point out that I heard/read (I'm fairly certain it was a reliable source, or else I wouldn't mention it... maybe I read it here or Wikipedia...) that Brawl is the last game in the series. At least, by the guy who was in charge of '64 and Melee. Melee WAS going to be the last game, but the guy was convinced to do one more game. So, whatever happens in Brawl is it, end of the line. There will probably be other Smash games by some other guy. Comparable to the guy (talented at naming, aren't I? :P) who directed MM, and TP, and WW (I think).

majoras_wrath wrote:I would like to point out that I heard/read (I'm fairly certain it was a reliable source, or else I wouldn't mention it... maybe I read it here or Wikipedia...) that Brawl is the last game in the series. At least, by the guy who was in charge of '64 and Melee. Melee WAS going to be the last game, but the guy was convinced to do one more game. So, whatever happens in Brawl is it, end of the line. There will probably be other Smash games by some other guy. Comparable to the guy (talented at naming, aren't I? :P) who directed MM, and TP, and WW (I think).

I can't accurately say whether or not what you say is true, but it certainly does make sense. It makes sense why they're branching beyond just Nintendo. Pretty much the Ultimate Showdown for who's who of gaming.
As long as they don't let it become another Mario party, I'm fine.

Good Lord. I'm as excited...I'm more excited than if I were awaiting a new Zelda game.

EDIT: Note to self--make sure you're on the last page of the topic before posting a reply. My excited words were just in reference to the video. The fact that Brawl is going to be the last game in the series fills me with a sort of strange emotional rage that is difficult to describe.

MasterSwordUltima wrote:whatever game was chock full of Black and White Mages, topped with moogles.

That'd be Mario hoops 3 on 3.

and...Well, I wouldn't MIND Sora being in at all, but, he's not in my top list.

What you're referring to no longer exists. It was on the old Smash Bros site before they remodeled it. I don't know if a copy exists on the web anymore, but this is close:
http://cube.ign.com/articles/673/673312p1.html

The thing is, he never says this is his last Smash Bros. He *did* say Melee was his last Smash Bros, but then Nintendo basically opened up this development studio just for him to come back and make this game. I honestly doubt he would turn down the opportunity to make another sequel sometime in the future. I suspect he just wants the chance to create other titles first, which is totally understandable.

Edit: It was waybacked:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060717230329/www.smashbros.com/en/story/index.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20060717230329/http://www.smashbros.com/en/story/page_2.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20060717230329/http://www.smashbros.com/en/story/page_3.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20060717230329/http://www.smashbros.com/en/story/page_4.html

I can't believe we haven't seen a mobile SSB. Seriously, the DS would be an amazing place for an online, wireless updated original SSB, maybe with a few new characters/melee characters.

Warlock wrote:
Pac-Man - Mainly just because Nintendo and Namco have such a close relationship and he is a video game icon. It's a bit hard to say what his moves would be though, which makes him a bit iffy.

Mr. Game and Watch comes to mind. 😉

omfg, since they confirmed sonic, pac man would be an "amazing" suprise character, like G&W. I would shit a brick and then fucking eat it. Solid snake, pit, metanight, sonic.... and fucking pac man. I would die.

[EDIT]Ok, I forgot to read all of pages 2 and 3. Forget I said anything about his Final Smash. *dies*

Also, I agree that Mege Man (original, not X) would have been a excellent addition to Brawl. We can only hope that the next game (there will be one) that Capcom joins in on the fun. Squareenix would be sweet, too. :kitty:

Sweet. Anybody wanna bet his Final Smash will involve him going Super Sai-I mean Hedgie?