How about a "Who You Would Like To See Posting Again" award? plenty of names to put there...
Sentiments about the state of AGN
bigjoe wrote:Edit:Actually, it was probably because I am the most egotistical, self absorbed,incoherent,perverted, and lame person here.😃
I wasn't aware I'd lost that title, I'm going to have to think about that for a while and decide just how I feel about that.
Right now I kinda feel like I'd just been fired from a job I didn't much care one way or the other about anyway, but the thought of being fired is disheartening somehow.
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Anyway Bigjoe, let me be the first to congratulate you on your promotion, you deserve it.
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Yeah JJ and Foxy were great...
Whatever happened to Jemsee too...
Real life had/has Jemsee busy elsewhere. He posts every once in a blue moon. 😊
I don't really have anything to contribute to the conversation except for the fact that I'm not on the list and after I got permabanned I went on six month apathetic hiatus thereafter, dunno if that counts.
Actually, I lied. AGN's been slowly shriviling up into a shell of its former self simply because there's no more hook. Zelda Classic is old old news, and there's absolutely no reason why anyone would want to host a new project at AGN when they have alternatives such as sourceforge and berlios. It's quite simple, if you want more people to be posting at AGN, you're going to have to find another hook that differeniates it from the thousands of other forums out there. Good luck trying to find a hook that hasn't already been taken and doesn't require the effort that some of AGN's previous failed endeavours (writing for the website, for instance) resulted in. And also realize that a good number of us on the forums are actually quite a bit older than the average population of the forums back in 2001-2002, so what might have worked then might not work now and vice versa.
I stated my opinions already, so I have virtually nothing to reply, except to admit something which is in no way inspiring.
I believe I said it in terms like "if you care enough about AGN, try to make a difference blah blah blah".
The trouble is, while I do like some of you and it's enough to make me randomly post something here... I don't care about AGN. Sorry. I feel bitter and sick of the place, like it's a rotting, festering zombie. I didn't post this with the inspiration to fix AGN, I just posted it to get my opinion off my chest and see what others had to say/if they might do anything productive as a result of it.
Incidently, my caring about AGN is not reduced by me becoming an apathetic person; I still bend over backwards to try to be polite and utterly fear getting insulted and whatnot, in decent places. AGN long ago lost my respect enough for that, though, and I tend to just speak my mind and consequences bedamned here. Fortunately, I've found more than one forum that is much, much nicer than AGN. Sure, there's people that are nice and not so nice, but the funny trick is, if you bother to run a forum well, you can actually maintain order and a healthy environment. I've been lucky to see such fantastic wonders as a firmly set "if you aren't mean, you can talk about whatever you want and it's cool" policy actually working and leading to good conversations, without fights or bullshit drama. I know, it's like, magic or something! Like that magic sticky tape they use in space and on shoes!!!
Old connections, getting to see a few people that I've known for years off and on, and misguided halfass sentimentality- which, as I said, is never fulfilled by actually visiting AGN in any way- are the only reasons I have for coming here anymore. And a lot of those old connections are severed by the great many people that no longer come here. Jemsee and Skatche also go on the list, but I don't feel like editing it yet again.
Again, some of you are great, and some of you I'd rather avoid further entanglement with because it always seems to get nasty for no real reason. Due to that conflict, and the overall lackluster of the situation, I just don't really care for AGN itself. Expect to see me randomly and inconsistantly unless things develop in a more interesting fashion somehow. Sorry 😞
Also, while I doubt you intended such in any negative way, BigJoe, I generally prefer not being called Tails. The last several times anyone called me Tails at AGN was specifically at an attempt to insult/goad me (AGN teaches you apathy whether you naturally tend to do it or not, though, I've noticed), although I doubt that was what you had in mind given what I know of you.
Again, sorry for that bit of unspiration there :/
I think we all just need to stick around and keep posting. Ultimately it is not ZC that has kept us here; it is each other. We continue to come to this board and post, not to talk about Zelda Classic, but to converse with those familiar avatars and nicknames we've grown up with. We've all grown up in our time at AGN; some younger members are starting to do the same (again, I think Amaster and Pineconn. Both are, I believe, younger members, though by no means have they yet proven themselves to be morons, thus putting them about 98% of their peer group.) AGN is just AGN and I think the best thing to do is keep plugging away. If something new draws new people of value here, great. If not, then not. The best thing we can do is keep giving each other a reason to return.
I'm drunk again, btw.
Fuck all of you people, my only goal is to be the last sad motherfucker posting here in like 10 years.
Beldaran wrote:Fuck all of you people, my only goal is to be the last sad motherfucker posting here in like 10 years.
By then though, AGN won't be a forum board, it'll be a place where all of our consciousness gathers after being uploaded to the internet just like in the Matrix. Either that, or the LSD and other trace chemical levels in the tap water will get to the point where we think that's what we're doing.
i have a feeling that agn would smell pretty bad if we William-Gibsoned it.
DarkDragon wrote:I was wrong; there was a "most likely to go to jail." Glenn won that year, and doesn't seem terribly bitter about it. 😉
Told ya. 😉
Dechipher wrote:We've all grown up in our time at AGN; some younger members are starting to do the same (again, I think Amaster and Pineconn. Both are, I believe, younger members, though by no means have they yet proven themselves to be morons, thus putting them about 98% of their peer group.)
Thanks for that comment. 😊 I suppose we're younger members; we're both 16 (as a matter of fact, I'm only 2 days older than him). And it is a sad fact about the... quality of most of our peers. I blame it on Britney Spears. :sweat:
Not all of them are bad. I started here when I was 14 and I don't think I was ever that stupid like most teenagers (although maybe someone can correct me). I just know that AGN does have some pretty cool people despite what some may think.
It's a lighthearted reply to Trev's reference to the AGN-Matrix. William Gibson wrote the cyberpunk novel "Neuromancer" which the Matrix, among other dystopian sci-fi is basically based on. Chill, and expand your library. :shrug:
Ah, I was wondering what you meant by that. 😉
So are the superlatives going to happen this year? [noparse]😊[/noparse]
It all depends on if one person wants to take up the cause. But first, we need nominations.
I already volunteered, but I'd rather see the method down pat first. The "easiest" way to do it is by constructing a forum like This One. When that happens, we can easily begin. I mean, surely creating a single new forum isn't so hard. O.o
I'd actually rather there not be nominations, and that everyone get the opportunity to be voted for. Someone is going to whine in the end about not getting nominated, and the contest as a whole will feel watered down when you only have so many people to be chosen from.
Glenn the Great wrote: Someone is going to whine
Someone whose name starts with "Gle" and ends with "nn the Great"? 😃
In the old system there were I think 5 that you voted between, and there was a general consensus on who those people were. I liked that system. You can't have a perfect system, and it would be very tough for the person who is running the superlatives if they have to keep adding names to the list.
Beldaran wrote:Someone whose name starts with "Gle" and ends with "nn the Great"? 😃
Yeah, I realize that I whine a lot around here. Let's change that to some people, and not just someONE.
Actually Phat, the oldest system done by Brian had no nominations, and everyone could be chosen from. It was also the most successful bout of superlatives.
Interesting. Elaborate please?
Well, it was in 2001 I believe. Brian made a list of maybe 20 to 30 awards, and then let people start voting. He gave us either a week or two weeks.
The way people voted was by sending Brian a private message with their vote out beside each award's title. There were no set choices for who to vote for.
At the end of the week, Brian tallied everything up. It was possible for members to tie these superlatives and each win it.
These were very popular at the time, and everyone had them in their signature. I won more awards than anyone else, winning such things as Best Moderator and Best Overall Member. Mottzilla won the original Most Likely to Go to Jail. There were also a lot of Zelda Classic related superlatives in the mix.
It seems nobody remembers me. Oddly enough, even though I only lurk on occasions, this place is still my home page. You can blame Screwattack for my disappearance.
I remember your username for sure (Jigglysaint ≠ Jigglypuff 😃), but you were active well before my time (on the forums, that is). But if you want to be remembered more, stick around. 😛
@ Glenn: That idea sounds very excellent. If we decide to go with that idea, I personally think a new thread should be created so we can brainstorm superlative titles and not come up with too many/too few.
we did have a forum specifically for the superlatives one year, and it's now a hidden/no posting forum, so i don't think it'd be that big of a deal to create a temporary forum for them. just need to find someone who can do it.
^^You mean an admin? Well that's where the trouble starts. Maybe the suggestion for more staff isn't so crazy after all.
I'll ask DN next time I see him.
I'm in no position to suggest such things, but I would say CK and Moocow should be admins and Prr and ShadowTiger should be SMods.
Incidentally, people who are absent for especially long periods of time probably shouldn't still hold major staff positions anymore, either.
Just my two cents.
Having Shadowtiger as a Sr. Mod would be the happiest of all things that could happen to this place right now.
While we are on the subject of Sr. Mods, what do you think it would be like if I were a Sr. Mod again?
I don't really see a problem with it. I'm sure it's not the answer you were expecting from me, but I don't see you abusing the power.