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phattonez wrote:So what are the numbers like?

They haven't changed in a long time. They still look very much like this; 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9

They added this new thing though, where you can combine two or more numbers to make even BIGGER ones!! Wow!!

😉

I have a Wii and a 360. I play the 360 a heck of a lot more than the Wii. The sales for the Wii might be better, but it currently has crap for games, and it can hardly even be considered a "next-gen" system. If you have an HD TV, do yourself a favor and get a 360. No other system can compare with it's library of games and best of all most of them are multiplayer over xbox live.

Eh, I concede that the 360 is technically superior, and that it does have a far better library of games. I might even go so far as to *gasp* admit that it's a better console. But I still like the Wii better because I feel safe sitting my younger sister down in front of Super Mario Galaxy confident in the knowledge that she's not playing a FPS or other highly inappropriate game, which unfortunatly a lot of the best titles on the 360 are. And I dispute that it's not a next-gen console. It just has different revolutionary criteria.

So, anyone here know of at least a good paragraph to say about low-level ozone? Only my chemistry project is due on Friday.

Breaker wrote:I have a Wii and a 360. I play the 360 a heck of a lot more than the Wii. The sales for the Wii might be better, but it currently has crap for games, and it can hardly even be considered a "next-gen" system. If you have an HD TV, do yourself a favor and get a 360. No other system can compare with it's library of games and best of all most of them are multiplayer over xbox live.

First, you can by an HD cable for the Wii. Second, many of the Wii games cooming out can be played over Nintendo Wifi. As for the library of games, the is just personal prefernce. You like xbox games better. Me, I prefer Zelda and Mario games. And just the fact that it has a motion sensitive controller gives Wii the title of a next generation system.

Although I will admit, "Xbox 360" sounds a lot neater then "Wii" does. It's like Nintendo just picked three random letters out of a hat, and made a word with it.

russadwan wrote:First, you can by an HD cable for the Wii. Second, many of the Wii games cooming out can be played over Nintendo Wifi. .

No. The Wii is not capable of displaying anything over 480p. The 360 is capable of outputting 1080p through HDMI. Technically, the Wii isn't that much more advanced than a gamecube. That's a fact, it's not putting the Wii down because I don't like it.

russadwan wrote:
As for the library of games, the is just personal prefernce. You like xbox games better. Me, I prefer Zelda and Mario games. .

Me too. So that leaves 2 good games to play on the Wii, 3 when Smash Brothers is released. 4 if you consider Metroid Prime decent.

russadwan wrote:
And just the fact that it has a motion sensitive controller gives Wii the title of a next generation system..

I've yet to see a game aside from the two you mentioned, Mario and Zelda, utilize it effectively without making me want to throw it across the room. The fact that the controller really isn't "wireless" and forces me to hook up a classic controller to play old games is an inconvenience as well.

I own both systems, but I'm just extremely satisifed with the 360 as an etertainment and multimedia console, which is the only point I was trying to make. Especially now that it supports divx/xvid I can stream my entire library of movies and music from my PC directly to my living room setup through the xbox. I don't think many people are generally aware of what all the 360 is really capable of.

phattonez wrote:So what are the numbers like?

I seriously doubt these numbers, but you can check out the projected sales at NexGenWars. Beware, this site used to be an adware-distributing site (but I longer get warns, nor does Google warn about it anymore).

Breaker wrote:No other system can compare with it's library of games and best of all most of them are multiplayer over xbox live.

I believe this is simply because Wii is such a different gaming console than the prior status quo. If you worked for a credible and quality game developing company and have created so-called standard games for 10 years, you'd likely create the next "blockbuster" game on a type of console you've been familiar with rather than the Wii as Nintendo can produce only a handful of good games themselves. Hence, the XBox has a better library of quality games over the Wii. Plus, the XBox 360 has had a year head's start.

Well, I personally am a nintendo fanboy. Ergo, I want a Wii.

However, I have to admit that I find the XBOX 360 to be quite interesting as well. (I might even get one at some point)

And MSU, I'm adding Star tropics on the list of VC games I want, right after Sin and punishment. Man, one video of that, and I wanted it really badly.

MasterSwordUltima wrote:[edit]Oh yeah, nobody seems to be talking about Olimar as a character in Brawl. Why is this?[/edit]

Well, it's better than what's happening on the gamefaqs Brawl boards. >_> they moan and complain for weeks "GIMME A NEW CHARACTER!!!" and when one is announced, there are more people complaining about it then those who are happy...

...soooooo predictable that place... *rolls eyes*

Whoah whoah whoah! Dojo is back up? I though they were off until this Friday.

EDIT: Pikmen YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*woot* *woot*

Breaker wrote:[The Wii] can hardly even be considered a "next-gen" system.
Amaster42 wrote:I dispute that it's not a next-gen console.
Right, because it certainly is a "next generation" system. People like to throw out Wii for its inferior technology, only saying that a next-gen system is truely worthy of that title if it boasts graphic prowess like the 360 and PS3. But thats a crazy statement to make because at some point the next-gen title will be debunked because the leaps in graphic quality in the 5 year life span (or longer if that happens) of a system will diminish. If you go back 2 years ago, you'll remember that people were once making the same accusations about the 360 when it was released, calling it an "Xbox 1.5" because it didn't make the leaps and bounds above the Xbox that everyone was expecting. Thats claiming that the Xbox 360 isn't a next-gen system, but when Wii came out a year later, all that was forgotten because the Wii was less of an improvement in visuals than the Xbox 360 was. So the Wii got the infamous title of not being a next-gen system. The Wii may not look that much better than the Gamecube hardware, but it certainly is the successor to it, a machine developed from and built up on it, and a product introduced in a new life span after the Gamcube. I don't see how that would not qualify it as a console in the next generation of consoles. The Wii itself maybe a disappointment to gamers with a poor library of games and the 360 may be an astonishing system, but Wii is still worth of the title "next-gen".

Some days it just feels like a gamecube with wifi and a wacky controller. *shrugs* The 360 is leaps and bounds better than the previous incarnation of the Xbox. I'm not sure what you're speaking of. Have you played either?

With XBL you can download and watch HD movies and television, download bonus content for virtually every title, play demos of future releases, and join lobbies with multiple friends and chat over the headset.

The Wii has a voting channel, Create-A-Mii, and a VC with overpriced titles that are better emulated over the PC.. none of which can be played multiplayer over a network.

I think most Nintendo fanboys are so defensive because they secretly find the Wii just as disappointing.

Breaker wrote:
I think most Nintendo fanboys are so defensive because they secretly find the Wii just as disappointing.

I don't find it dissapointing. I personally don't care if it has bad graphics. Heck, I wouldn't mind if it had NES graphics, just give me good games and a waggle controller and I'm fine!

I like the wii system, but there are rarely any games I like for that system, TP, is mainly the only one, maybe I should get a new game. Any suggestions?

I can't wait to get unreal 3 for the ps3, the others were mildly good.

My first week of fire training is over. I smell of sweat, The muscles around my clavicle are sore and I'm drinking water like there's no tomorrow. I love the pain but only because it's helping me.

Training today was good. One hour of work for a fire fighter is eight hours of construction work.

Oh and I'd take a 360 over a Wii.

biggiy05 wrote:My first week of fire training is over. I smell of sweat, The muscles around my clavicle are sore and I'm drinking water like there's no tomorrow. I love the pain but only because it's helping me.

Training today was good. One hour of work for a fire fighter is eight hours of construction work.

Oh and I'd take a 360 over a Wii.

Does Halo 3 really suck, everyone says it does.

Why waste that water when you can use it to save a life?!?!

Breaker wrote:Some days it just feels like a gamecube with wifi and a wacky controller. *shrugs* The 360 is leaps and bounds better than the previous incarnation of the Xbox. I'm not sure what you're speaking of. Have you played either?

Yes, I have played with the Xbox, Xbox 360 and Wii. I wasn't praising or criticizing any of the systems I mentioned, just stating that the Wii is the successor to the Gamecube and should be recognized as a next gen system regardless of how much of an upgrade it is. A lot of people don't only based on the fact it can't display the same visuals as another system, and that gives me the impression that the media doesn't care anything about games anymore unless it looks good. I wasn't trying to down the Xbox 360 if thats how you took it. And the "Xbox 1.5" comment was stated in several game related forums all across the internet when the system was about to be released. I thought it was stupid comment myself. Even media outlets were stating the same thing. Thats similar to the same claims about the Wii now. But I'm positive I'm not imagining things.

Grasshopper wrote:Yes, I have played with the Xbox, Xbox 360 and Wii. I wasn't praising or criticizing any of the systems I mentioned, just stating that the Wii is the successor to the Gamecube and should be recognized as a next gen system regardless of how much of an upgrade it is. A lot of people don't only based on the fact it can't display the same visuals as another system, and that gives me the impression that the media doesn't care anything about games anymore unless it looks good. I wasn't trying to down the Xbox 360 if thats how you took it. And the "Xbox 1.5" comment was stated in several game related forums all across the internet when the system was about to be released. I thought it was stupid comment myself. Even media outlets were stating the same thing. Thats similar to the same claims about the Wii now. But I'm positive I'm not imagining things.

QFT. This is exactly my opinion; fantastic graphics do not a next-gen make. However, I am a bit more critical of the XBox.
It's always the same old story. Nintendo has innovation, the other makers have power. Neither is better or worse than the other. (Although both industries should have some of each).
The XBox 360 is a next-gen due to it's fantastic library. Without some of the best games on the market it's basicly an upgrade of the XBox. Name me one true innovation that came with it. Better graphics? Sure. Better online play? Sure. All kinds of improvements, but nothing really new. You still play your games exactly the same as before, it just looks better.

Mind you, I'm trying to offer criticism here, not slam the XBox. By all means it's an amazing console, and keep in mind that I'm a Microsoft hater, so that's high praise coming from me.

powertozelda wrote:Why waste that water when you can use it to save a life?!?!

I drink a gallon throughout the day. My engine truck holds 800-1100 gallons. I don't think I'm gonna be hurting my reserve supply.

Time to go pass out.

But hey, you can pass out secure in the knowledge that your' doing what you've worked so hard for. Another step closer to a full fledged fire-fighter.

biggiy05 wrote:I drink a gallon throughout the day. My engine truck holds 800-1100 gallons. I don't think I'm gonna be hurting my reserve supply.

Time to go pass out.

Not to mention that by drinking that water you're getting your body into shape so that you yourself will save lives =)

The training sounds intense, and it must take dedication. I'm impressed with anyone who can go through with it.

Woah Woah Woah...wait...so if I put together a piece of shit console...its Next-Gen? Reguardless of how good graphics are, let alone gameplay on the perhaps single game?

That is rad.

to me a next gen console would be capable of 12 (?) colours (from a 256 colour pallet) simultaneously displayed and with 5 sound channels. with incredibly awesome gameplay.... ah the good days of the NES.

anyways, who enjoys F.E.A.R. on the 360?

Oh god, the E.T. game that was said to initiate the "video game crash." Haha, that game looks horrible.

Does anyone know of any good free virus scanning programs that isn't McAfee (because my free trial of a year has been used up)?

Have you tried AVG free? Search for that or Grisoft (I think that's right) which may be the site/developer it's hosted under.

Thanks, I'll look into those.

Two huge upsets today, Chargers > Colts and Giants > Cowboys. Who'd have figured that there would be a Manning left in the playoffs... and it isn't Peyton. 😛