Russell wrote:
Anyways, I'm not too much of an expert on the writing of the Bible, but wasn't Luke a historian? It seems unlikely that somebody dedicated to recording history would deliberately change the facts.
Luke was a Physician. And there is no evidence to suggest that Luke, Matthew, Mark, or John wrote any of the gospels. In fact, there is evidence that they did not. I first heard about that evidence while reading an annotated bible, in which it was explained in the introduction that the gospels were likely written something like 100 years after Jesus' death, and they were compiled word of mouth accounts that included common elements from many apocalyptic cults of the time.
Then Constantine edited the hell out of the bible to help his government use christianity to control people's minds and make them obedient.
So basically that pile of papers you think is divinely inspired is really just the propaganda arm of the Roman Empire, derived from the contradictory ramblings of desert mystics.
That's correct, and what I was going to say - very little is known about the author of the gospel of Luke, and certainly nothing to suggest he was a historian. He was a gentile, he wrote the gospel decades after the death of Jesus, and he is also very probably the author of Acts as well. That's really all we know for sure.
None of the gospel writers were directly connected to the events of Jesus or the apostles, which, along with the narrative structure of the gospels, leads me conclude that they were written more to preserve the oral traditions in writing than they were intended to be a historical record of events. Perhaps other areas of the Bible were meant to be taken more literally, but I can't imagine the gospel writers, writing decades after Jesus' death and imposing their own interpretation on the alleged events of his life, had any illusions that what they were doing was meant to be interpreted literally.
Bel... can you get me the name of the annotated bible that you speak of? Or a link to the book so I can purchase it and read it? Please and thank you.
Beldaran wrote:Luke was a Physician. And there is no evidence to suggest that Luke, Matthew, Mark, or John wrote any of the gospels. In fact, there is evidence that they did not. I first heard about that evidence while reading an annotated bible, in which it was explained in the introduction that the gospels were likely written something like 100 years after Jesus' death, and they were compiled word of mouth accounts that included common elements from many apocalyptic cults of the time.Then Constantine edited the hell out of the bible to help his government use christianity to control people's minds and make them obedient.
So basically that pile of papers you think is divinely inspired is really just the propaganda arm of the Roman Empire, derived from the contradictory ramblings of desert mystics.
It's the Bible that Baylor uses for their Christian History course, which is required. I don't have mine anymore, but they sell them at the bookstore. Next time I'm over there, I'll check and see what the name is. I can't remember. It's like "The New Something Or Other Bible". It's got a red cover with big white letters.
Probably New American, if my memory serves me right.
Actually, I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say it's the New Oxford Annotated Bible. It's got annotations, and white lettering on a red cover. It's also in stock at the Baylor bookstore.

Yes! That's it . You got it. You are the man. I'd rep you, but it won't let me, as usual.
I'm giving you rep because you were actually able to figure out which one it is.
You know, my mom went to Baylor. I wonder if she still has that.
Oh damn. Missed the discussion about books.
I don't read half as much as I used to, but I do enjoy a good book now and then. ...I am also currently suffering from "Pendragon Withdrawal Syndrome". It's agony waiting for the last book. I want to know how the whole massive catastrophy gets resolved!!
Had an awesome weekend, but a really shitty monday. On the weekend, I slept over with friends. We played Street fighter 4, took turns in mirros Edge, and in dead Space, all in glorious HD (wow...HD is awesome). We also played HOURS of custom robo. HOURS. ...Plus we drank bit, so you can imagine what it sounded like. XD.
Now, my monday.... Had gastro (stomach flu, I think) in the morning. Went into work, and it was terrible. An hour later, the boss told me to just go home, and not to risk contaminating anyone. That and I have an "immaculate attendance record" according to him, so he doesn't mind at all if I'm gone a day. Anyway, I made it home and was feeling a lot better by noon. So, to treat myself (and make myself feel better), I popped in Chrono Cross, which I'd bought at a GameBuzz near my work. ...it didn't work. So I pop out th eCd to see if it's dirty and...
Fakes. THEY GAVE ME FAKE CDs. They were just black plastic CD shaped disks with the label on them. I even checked to see if the black was a cover, but then I realised that not only was it actually plastic, the label had been just slapped on with glue! I swear, if I can go back to work tomorrow, I am gonna go back to that store and DEMAND a ****** explanation.
Oh, and for all of you who like platformers, but aren't easily freaked out: Eversion. Try it. Nao. Finished it in less thatn 2 hours, and it was awesome.
I got a nautical themed pashmina afghan.
Aegix: Wow, that sucks.
About Eversion, did you get all the jewels and beat level 8? That's the best one.
Damn, Gina. I'd be pissed too. Also, Eversion is totally like two or three weeks ago's news. But yeah, I agree that it is an excellent game, and quite avatar-worthy.
Just finished Good Omens, which I'd been told was the greatest book evar written by several people.
It was very good, but I'm not sure what all the fuss was about...
Russell wrote:About Eversion, did you get all the jewels and beat level 8? That's the best one.
I hated level 8. It was just tedious.
phattonez wrote:I hated level 8. It was just tedious.
Agreed. I spent most of my time silently chanting under my breath "please not red, please not red.....Please go blue, please go blue....please go red, please go red...". It was probably my most hated level, with the possible exception of level 6.
Now level 7...THAT was really well done. Super had to get all the gems, but REALLY well done.
And it seems I MAY have blown a gasket over nothing. >_> How was I supposed to know that all PS1 disks were black? Anyway, a (trustworthy) friend at work offered to take a look at the CDs, and see if it really was a faulty disk, or if it was just my PS2.
Hm. All of a sudden, I'm seeing everyones' usernames inside a thread as more of a very dull ruddy red or orange or brown color. Is anyone else seeing this?
I'm not seeing it. Maybe it's another problem arrising from the thread being so dang big.
Amaster: I know what you mean. There are lots of times when people tell you a book is amazing, and it's just okay. Ever heard of Twilight? Nearly every girl and about 25% of the boys I know love it (and every girld I know obsseses over it), but if you ask me, it's just okay.
Here's what it looks like on my end. (Apologies for the terrible quality; I had to do all of this from a school PC.)

And yes, everyones' name is in that color, staff included. But it wasn't like this when I logged in to this very computer even 50 minutes ago.
Hm. Thanks. Must be this computer. It's a Mac, but on Boot camp to windows. It's a School computer, so I can't really go looking into the issue as well as I'd like. (Currently in class.)
Thanks for the screenshot, aye. ... But yes, I suppose it would stand to reason that I'm in the blue skin.
ShadowTiger wrote:Hm. All of a sudden, I'm seeing everyones' usernames inside a thread as more of a very dull ruddy red or orange or brown color. Is anyone else seeing this?
You haven't been clicking into everyone's profile have you?
Strange though, I haven't ever had problems with this site on any computer I've ever been on.
ST, I'm guessing it's just the skin you're using. Try using the default skin.
I'm using "Classic Black" and people's usernames appear purple to me.
Heh, purple's my favorite color. Coincidence?
Actually yeah, it probably is.
*gasp* What plot is this? Rck Nog, leading the purple lovers of the internet in a revolution to transform as much as possibe into their beholied color?
Names appear blue to me.
Edit: What exactly does "Advertising by new member" mean?
Anthus, I have to ask - are you by any chance colorblind in such a way that you can't see purple? I only ask because I have a friend who sees purple as grey, and you remind me enough of her already and it's freaking me out.
Amaster - blast! You've uncovered my diabolical plot!
So it turns out it was my PS2 that was the problem.
*sigh* I'll either have to swap PS2s with a friend, assuming one is willing, or try to get this annoying ass PSX emulator to actually RUN the game past the title screen.