Wow I just heard tommorow all over the nation people are going to wearing the colors of VA Tech or somehow supporting it. Anybody here got anything to wear? I'd happily do it but I don't have there colors.
Virginia Tech shooting...
Amaster42 wrote:Ya know, between all the aisians, hispanics, blacks, homosexuals, women and other groups, the white male is now almost a minority. Not saying that's a bad thing, just an interesting thought, when you consider all the special treatment we give other minorities.
I can't remeber the source, but I recall reading a intersting news article about this not to long ago. For a species to successfully keep their population up they have to reproduce at something ilke 1.7 average rate. The "white" population has never really been the majority species on earth, but thanks to the age of exploration, we succesfully planted our seeds all over, and we encouraged to reproduce in order to keep colonies up. Now in this study they did, they discovered that the "whites" are reproducing at a rate of 1.3, while mexicians are something near 2.5 and asian at 3.7. In short, white people are gonna go extinct.
As for VT... theres nothing really to say other than its just sad being reminded how easily life is taken and how pointlessly.
EatinCake wrote:(stupid off topic shit about race)
Yeah, how about we keep the discussion centered around subjects that are immediately important to the VT shootings.
Plissken wrote:Wow I just heard tommorow all over the nation people are going to wearing the colors of VA Tech or somehow supporting it. Anybody here got anything to wear? I'd happily do it but I don't have there colors.
I don't have their colors either... nor do I have the money to buy clothes that is their colors. So I bought some ribbon (black and maroon), safety pins and orange puffy paints... and made a ribbon to wear. Then I had to make one for mom, dad, my sister and one of my friends... lol.
Has anyone else considered the irony of deathbyhokie's name?
Anyway, I think that the way to try to prevent this kind of thing from happening in the future is to be sure not to bully others. If you are out of school, don't have kids; if you do have them anyway, teach them not to bully others. Also, you should take the time to sit down and realize that your "debaucheries" really are enough, if not too much. Also, if you become very rich, start giving money to the poor. Girls, never say no to a nerd who asks you out. Don't do too much to flaunt your membership in religious clubs either.
These are a lot of smart precautiouns that likely would have stopped this incident, the Columbine shootings, and many other lesser-publicized but just as devastating school-related acts of violence.
Just doing these things here, will do a whole lot more than the government ever could. You don't need to look to the government for help here... you need only look to yourselves.
Glenn I really can't tell when you are fakeposting or not you need to implement some kind of a signal
I disagree. This guy was crazy and you can't placate crazy people by changing your behavior.
I'm not saying you shouldn't be nice to people (obviously you should), but girls should turn down whoever they want without worrying about them flipping out and killing people in psychotic retribution. You don't have to donate money to the poor and enjoying your life is not a debauchery.
The only way to stop people like this is by making sure administrators are more attuned to the mental health of their students. From what I've read, this guy had been red lighted as a potential problem, but was shuffled from person to person and no one ever really did anything.
AtmaWeapon wrote:Glenn I really can't tell when you are fakeposting or not you need to implement some kind of a signal
Success! I've been fine-tuning my posts very carefully to try to get this response. The best post is one where the authenticity isn't outright obvious, and you have to stop and think about it, which gives my message time to sink in and perhaps take hold.
Beldaran wrote:It's even more terrifying when you think about the recent projects to show how many innocent people are in prison. They've cleared like over a hundred people off of death row because of DNA evidence. Or how about the Duke LaCrosse scandal? One black girl makes an outrageous claim and for a year a group of white defendants are presumed guilty and have to fight for their lives constantly.
Actually it wasn't that outrageous, there was just no physical proof and you can't prove "rape" in NC without there being a PENIS PRESENT OH NO. If someone were to use a condom/their hand/not be male during a sexual assualt there's no way to prove rape so you'd have to dismiss it. So who knows. I've heard people in NC complain about this 😞
Yes, but in this particular case, the case fell apart because the accuser told 3 or 4 different versions to police and no one could back up her recollection of events because they didn't make sense. At least that's what I heard from america's finest news source, ESPN News. 😛
Dennis Nifong is in serious trouble because the only reason he took the case was to try and get black votes in his next election.
Well I was talking about something last night and I realized one of the biggest problems that presents itself when dealing with a guy like this. I hate to sound misogynist but it seems to me a lot of women would rather be victims than fight. From what I understand, Mr. Dude in the shooting had been in trouble for stalker-type behavior in the past but no one ever pressed charges because apparently going through the process of pressing charges on an individual for making you live in fear is embarrassing.
The general opinion I see people forming is that the general student body noticed signs of problems with the guy but nothing worth forcing some form of monitoring upon him. The authorities had several complaints against him that indicated there was trouble on the horizon, but charges were always dropped so their hands were tied by the system.
Many brutal murders I've read about involve an individual who had harassed the victim for quite some time beforehand, but for some reason the victims tend to keep quiet and the first time anyone goes "Hey wait he was that guy she told me was always standing outside her bathroom window with a knife in his hand for 3 weeks" is after the murder, then they go "I wanted to call the police but she told me she was embarrassed and if she ignored him for long enough he'd probably go away".
You can't arrest a person or force them into counseling for being a loner, antisocial, or displaying other characteristics of an unstable individual. Their right to freedom is protected up to the point where their behavior violates another's rights and that individual presses charges for the offense. I'm not saying this event would have been stopped had anyone pressed charges against him earlier, but I do believe there is a possibility something could have been done.
Entire thread says: you can't press charges on people who don't do anything
even if you have a vagina
bye
moocow wrote: I just read that it's unclear whether the gunman shot himself or if the police shot him...
I have nothing against a policeman shooting someone if it means keeping order. I just wish they'd own up to it.
Whether or not they own up to it, they will be treated with scorn for their actions. And that is as it should be, because a society which scorns it's police officers is a healthy society. However, they need to realize it is better to be scorned+honest rather than scorned+dishonest.
Glenn the Great wrote: a society which scorns it's police officers is a healthy society.
I disagree. Police Officers rather heroically go out and risk their lives to keep society as orderly and safe as possible. They are rather heroic in my opinion. They ought to be respected and admired, but only when their actions deserve it of course.
I do agree that their behavior should be highly transparent and subject to criticism, but to scorn them for the good and necessary work they do is wrong.
Well you see Beldaran, it is very important that there is always a strong opposing force to the police. If there isn't, then the police will gradually become more and more corrupt, as they become placid in their image as heroes.
Everyone loved Hitler. They loved him too much. By the time things went to Hell, the German citizens didn't really even know what hit them.
Checks and balances, man.
Glenn the Great wrote: it is very important that there is always a strong opposing force to the police.
There is one. The constitution.
Glenn the Great wrote:Checks and balances, man.
The constitution.
Now if only we could ensure that the government respected the constitution. *cough* patriot act *cough
I'm from chicago and everyone is like "fuck the police", there was a video of a big fat one beating the shit out of a 5'0" woman or something awhile ago. apparently this isn't that crazy 😞
Glenn the Great wrote:Whether or not they own up to it, they will be treated with scorn for their actions. And that is as it should be, because a society which scorns it's police officers is a healthy society. However, they need to realize it is better to be scorned+honest rather than scorned+dishonest.
I can't really say I quite agree with you.
I mean sure, there is police officers who don't own up to their job, but what about the people that do? What about the police officers that died during 911?
I believe there is certain officers who are heros, and then there is the officers who are the dirty wothless piece's of shit that do nothing. But then again, you'll find that everywhere you go correct? Please, don't take offense Glenn, I'm not shooting your view point down. But your statement seemed to be sort of 1-sided. Maybe I just misinterpreted it?
Beldaran wrote:There is one. The constitution.The constitution.
What are the first 3 words of the Constitution?
We The People.
We make it happen. The paper doesn't do it by itself.
I feel sorry for those that lost their lives (and the families/friends involved)... but I also feel sorry for the family of Chou.
Hopefully like the Amish people that helped the family of the guy that shot their children... I hope the families of those that lost their lives can also - in one way or another - embrace the family of Chou and help them thru this as well.