Yeah, it seems like the most inconvinient time to do so, what with ZC 2.5 nearing and all, but I have to confess: this isn't satisfying anymore. It was pretty cool programming ZC, don't get me wrong, but now it's become a tedious bottleneck for me. I have other interests I want to pursue, including one thing in particular that will take some time and effort on my part to accomplish. Thing is, I can't continue doing this.
I've been trying to be amicable and understanding to the needs of the fanbase, but the truth is I've been wanting to quit this since October/November. That's the reason I wanted 2.5 to come out by the end of the year, so I can finally have some sort of closure when I leave the project. However, it's becoming increasingly clear that 2.5 won't be out for at least another month, if not more. Part of me would like to finish this, but most of me says 'no way'. I do feel bad about "betraying" the fan base, but I'm not the only dev here, and this does not signal the death of ZC. Other devs will come to replace me if DN has his way, and the current devs (yes, _L_ included) will do their best to get 2.5 out in a timely manner. Also, I won't disappear completely. I'll still be here for consulting purposes, and will still have accss to the source code. And perhaps, if things turn out the right way, I'll return to finish what I came on here to do... actively develop ZC to the point of stability.
I expect some kneejerk reactions, but I hope that at least some of you will understand where I'm coming from. I apologize again.
Thank you for all that you've done to help Zelda Classic!
:< Sad to see you leave, jman. :< As _L_ said, Thank you for all you've done for ZC!
Sad to see you go, man. You were one of, if not the, most responsive dev. Thanks for your work on the project.
I second C-Dawg's comment.
And third. Can't say I don't understand, but you'll certainly be missed.
Best of luck with all your projects, and I will never harbor any feelings of ill will towards you about this. You helped out as best you could I an personally thank you for all the time and such you spent on this project.
Have a great day,
Lotus
Goodbye Jman, and thanks for all you've done to ZC./
I hate to see you go but, you do what you must. Thanks for everything you've done for us.
I was shocked... when I say that it was you. When I first saw the title, I though it was another tester fallowing Freedom's lead. Sad to see you go, I sort of got the Impression that you were the one doing all the work too.
It's a shame, but I suppose it can't be helped. You've done a really good job, Jman. Thanks for all the work you've put into ZC. You shall be missed.
A sad accident... I always (or rather in the late time) thought for Jman as the lead developer of ZC... ZC wouldn't be the same without him... I hope everything will be superb with you as time passes... ...and I also hope that you will once return but only after everything is well and you feel that you can do it... (come on, I need to say this).
Thank you jman2050!
Good luck in whatever you do Jman. I'll go bug Koopa from now on with all bug reports! XD Best of luck.
EDIT: Furthermore, I've received word from Petoe that this bit of news might just shut down LI as well. We'll just have to wait and see.
😞
Well... This is like the worst possible news. jman was the best and the most hard working dev ever. Without him I would have lost faith in ZC a long time ago...
But now, I guess this is the end then. Thanks a lot for abandoning us jman. Without you, there will never be a stable ZC... unless Dn and the other devs become more active again. But anyhow, what a devastating loss and day for ZC.
I better log off now to cool off before I overreact and announce the cancellation of Lost Isle.
A loss indeed. Quite the dire one. I've always loved jman's style, and this day marks more the appearance of that deep black hole of despair moreso than the bugginess ever did.
I don't think anyone could ever replace you, Mark.*
* - (Not his real name. 😉 )
Can't really blame you, it seems like every step forward forces you two steps back because of bugs. It really sucks because quite a few people here (myself included) see you as the leader of all the developers... and as some sort of hope that a stable release will one day come. With your departure, it makes me lose faith in stable ZC. But like I said in the beginning, I can't blame you.
Thanks for all of your contributions, and good luck with whatever you decide to do after this.
Jman I am really sad to see you go ........
Let's just not forget to think about other people before ourselves. I know you're going to hate me for saying it, but think about jman's interests. He has a life too, and nobody should be chained to something they don't want to do when it was they who had originally volunteered for it in the first place. ... all without getting paid to do it.
He's given us everything (Features and bugs and all.) and hasn't gotten anything out of it except far more aggravation than he has amazement at what his innovations have brought forth.
ShadowTiger wrote:but think about jman's interests. He has a life too, and nobody should be chained to something they don't want to do when it was they who had originally volunteered for it in the first place.
Life is more important than anything on the internet, that's for sure. So there's nothing wrong in leaving if you just don't like what you're doing...
BUT... the way jman left... dammit. he could have warned us somehow that his interest was getting thinner and a stunt like this could be expected sometime in the future. That way we could have prepared for this bad news somehow and for example I wouldn't have used tons of hours now gone to waste to work on a quest.
Instead of preparing us for his departure, jman gave us (well at least me on AIM) false hope, constantly defending L and saying how he is so confident and sure that ZC will be stable soon and he will try to make sure that the devs make bugfixing their #1 priority...
..and now I see this, how am I supposed to feel?
"Yeah, it's okay that you lied to me and gave flase hope jman, take care"
Blah...
All I can do is hope and pray that the rest of the developers will pick up the pieces and make ZC stable. Koopa, DN, even L.. you guys can do it! There will be a stable ZC someday.
Well jman, I want to say thank you for everything. I understand everything that you said. You have done so much in your little time that you were developing Zelda Classic. I do think it sucks that you didn't stay until the stable version, because lets face it, you were the face of the stable version. Everyone that hoped for a stable version was counting on you, because they knew you wanted it badly. But with you gone, I don't know what will happen. I am still going to put faith in the other developers not because it is the only thing I can do, but because the community will fall apart if not.
But you will be missed. I thank you so much for doing what you did for Zelda Classic. I wish you the best of luck on everything, and hopefully you stay around here even if you aren't the developer. Thank you.
Shoelace wrote: because lets face it, you were the face of the stable version. Everyone that hoped for a stable version was counting on you,
I shared my thoughts about this whole thing in a PM to Jman... but yea, Shoelace's quote pretty well sums it up.
Like I said a couple days ago in another post, you can't fight from within and without, or put even better, by a guy 2000 years ago, that everyone on the planet knows...
"A house divided cannot stand"
Damn, man, that sucks. I know what you mean, though. Doing one thing for too long makes it lose it's appeal. At the very least, not I'll stop begging you for Z3 screen scrolling (yay)
Now who am I going to be able to bribe to add features for me?
Also, just so everyone knows, I AM looking for a succesor to continue working on the project. Hopefully the person or persons I find will be suitable for the job.
*Wishes someone would ask itsyfox.*
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*Wishes he had a more solid postcount and posting time to be chosen with more securely a mind*
*Sigh* All we can do now is remember the good times.
Remember "A Revolution is Coming". Ah, so many memories. Jokes all around...friendly faces...mounting tension reaching borderline insanity...good time...good times.
Jman, ye shall be missed.
Well, ya do what ya gotta do. If this really has been on your mind since October, you've certainly had time to think about it.
I'm going to hope that your frequent appearances on the message board are a clue that the rest of the devs would rather spend more time working on the program itself. 😊 In any case, you did a great job.
I hope you'll stick around the forums to "impart your wisdom" indirectly. Good luck with everything else you hope to accomplish.
I'm sorry the community did this to you Jman. Godspeed.
Thank you for all your contributions jman.
Awww! You're leaving! Well good job with all of what you did. Well, Jman, you did good things to ZC. But I bet some people think that hope for a stable release is gone. Well, I think you did the right thing. I'd quit too if I were tired of it.
Petoe wrote:Life is more important than anything on the internet, that's for sure.
Hey now, the internet is SERIOUS BUSINESS, I hear.