MottZilla wrote:I could believe that considering there has been murder over stolen Xbox consoles. You can bet you'll see alot of PS3s going high on eBay.
Limzo wrote:There's a 2disc game for PS1. Abe's Exodus. One of my favourite games ever.
AND IT'S 2D!
franpa wrote:why say this? there on cd's not dvd's... thanks for the reply mottzilla but could you list a ps2 game that is dvd based and multi disced?
After a simple google search, I came up with one almost immediately.
MottZilla wrote:Blue Laser technology is still a high priced luxury item.
Neo-Geo anyone?
The PS3 is going to fall hard, and fast. The biggest reason is simple: The people I talk to that are not gaming nerds like me have voiced how they have heard that the PS3 is going to fail, that the PS3 is over-priced, etc etc. They are the type of gamer(s) that don't base their buying decisions on game quality, they base it on marketing and popularity. Those people represent the majority of gamers out there, and just as they bought PS2's because of the hype/image, they are going to avoid PS3's because of hype/image. The PS3 is going to be a rich-nerd toy, it has hardly any appeal to the mass gamer market.
sadly i fall into that category aswell.... and next door has an x-box and it just owns the ps2.
meh, i dont even like sony. they always copy stuff from other companies. im not getting a ps3 if its that costly. ill just get a wii, i need to exersize my arms 😃.
franpa wrote:why say this? there on cd's not dvd's... thanks for the reply mottzilla but could you list a ps2 game that is dvd based and multi disced?
Star Ocean 3. I have more but I'd have to look through stacks and stacks of discs.
NeoGeo didn't fail because it was just over priced. The NeoGeo home system failed to attract a huge market but it was around getting releases for a LONG LONG time. Well beyond the year 2000. It failed to capture a big market because for one, the cartridges were expensive to make. Not only that they wanted a huge profit margin too... Even past the year 2000 when cartridge sizes weren't getting any bigger (as they actually couldn't really) they still were charging 300$ for a new NeoGeo AES cartridge game. 600$ + 300$ games? PS3 isn't quite there yet!
I do think though that this generation the Xbox 360 will capture a good share of the people who previously owned Playstation 2 systems.
solyphon, we've already established you're a Nintendo fanboy.
MottZilla wrote:I seem to recall though that some company (not Sony) has been making progress and getting better yields on the Blue Laser diodes.
KingBoo30 wrote:I guess you haven't seen too many games then...especially RPGS. Heck, there's even a few for Gamecube!
MGS: Twin Snakes is two discs, and it's a bit of hassle if you have to have to run back to collect an item you forgot to grab before the Comm towers, but honestly, it's no big deal. I've been playing to collect all the dog tags in all five difficulty modes, which means a lot of playthroughs, especially if you miss a boss tag. Even all the switches required to finish that task hasn't bothered me.
I'm a bit confused by what you mean. Remember HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are both Blue Laser technology and require the same Blue Laser diodes. I'm pretty sure it wasn't Toshiba, I think it was Lite-On or someone like that.
I wasn't sure if I remembered you saying that before, that they required the same diode. But honestly, who else would be manufacturing blue laser diodes at such a large capacity except Toshiba, or their parts supplier?
Everyone in laser optics is working on producing Blue Laser diodes. That includes the obvious Toshiba, Philips, Samsung, Sony, and probably the not so obvious like Lite-On and maybe JVC.
goKi wrote: I hope the PS3, Blu Ray, HD-DVD and Sony all fail.
That's a very distinct possibility. Take a look at this:
Saw that on a YTMND. Not the site you'd expect to get that sort of thing from, but the numbers are legit. Sony has been in a downward spiral for a long time now, and at this rate I'll be VERY surprised if there is a PlayStation 4.
Well that definately shows a drop following e3. However, this graph is very short-term - it doesn't even show to the end of May. And in the world of finances, a short-term trend doesn't mean a whole lot. What does this graph look like for the entire '06 year?
Yes it doesn't mean much. They could certainly climb back up there. It's too soon to tell.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=SNE&t=6m&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=
This is the current chart. It actually peaked pretty high *just* before e3, and it's been a slow decline since then :P
And there they are compared to Nintendo. You will notice that the two start a steady move in opposite directions right around May...
Wow, that's interesting. I wonder if it's possible to track when the Sony President said all that rediculous condescending crap and see if the stocks went down :P
Edit: Looked it up (based on thread dates about the stories). Most of it is in mid-late June through early July, and the whole PSP White racist ad thing was in early July. Funny, those are the lowest dips 😊
The one with Sony and Nintendo on the same graph is pretty nice to look at. It means people are pretty hopeful for the Wii.
Those graphs are fucking awesome. I knew Nintendo was owning them, but to see it like that...sweet.
I don't know about owning them, I think these are graphs of stock prices right? Stock price isn't everything. The stock market is filled with mostly lemmings.
Indeed. These are only stock charts. Not sale charts. The fanboyism here is really getting on my nerves.
MottZilla wrote:I don't know about owning them, I think these are graphs of stock prices right? Stock price isn't everything. The stock market is filled with mostly lemmings.
If a bunch of successful stock market players thought that the PS3 launch was going to be as successful as Sony hoped, they'd be buying shares in Sony at that price. But noone does.
Orion wrote:Indeed. These are only stock charts. Not sale charts. The fanboyism here is really getting on my nerves.
Oh come on, don't tell me you found it at least a little humerous that Sony's stock steadily declined after their performance at E3? Besides, if nothing else this supports the claim that Sony has given nothing but negative news since May. The stock marcket is based on hype: if Sony was generating a positive buzz over, well, anything, then we would see their stocks do well. The fact is that Sony has had nothing but negative report after negative report, and the fact that their stocks reflect this I would say proves that this goes beyond mere fanboism.
I think Orion's point was more about "Nintendo is kicking Sony's ass" which isn't true other than stock value increase as of late. As usual, we can all agree the next year in the gaming world will be interesting.
Point is, now's the time to buy share in Sony. Because once the PS3 [b]is/b] released, the stock will go bak up, plus Sony's only prouct isn't the Playstation. They have TV's and stuff too, or did every one forget about those?
Dude, who needs a TV when you've got a Nintendo conso...
Oh. Right.
Sony has alot of competition in other products made by Pioneer, Samsung, Toshiba, Philips, and on and on. The video game market is the last thing they ever truely dominated and now it looks as they may no longer even have that. They have maybe a year left of the PS2 software sales before they really fall off.
But you do make a point, it would be the time to buy stock now, because they may have a good boost in prices later on down the line. That's something people don't understand though. We will see, just not soon enough.
Sony has been having a problems in other areas of the industry besides just video games. Those stock prices could just be reflecting those incidents as well, not just the PS3. You can't go and blame everything on on the PS3, although it is the easy scapegoat. I think they recently had a recall on laptop batteries if I remember correctly though.
And Archi's right, stock prices will go back up, they always do.
Grasshopper wrote:Sony has been having a problems in other areas of the industry besides just video games. Those stock prices could just be reflecting those incidents as well, not just the PS3. You can't go and blame everything on on the PS3, although it is the easy scapegoat. I think they recently had a recall on laptop batteries if I remember correctly though.And Archi's right, stock prices will go back up, they always do.
True or not, the fact that it drastically fell in the middle of May is a pretty freaking huge coincidence not to be PS3 related.
Archibaldo wrote:Point is, now's the time to buy share in Sony. Because once the PS3 [b]is/b] released, the stock will go bak up, plus Sony's only prouct isn't the Playstation. They have TV's and stuff too, or did every one forget about those?
I've always had problems with Sony's hardware, PS2 included (but certainly not the sole instance).
The PS3 will likely cause a temporary spike in stock price. Then, if the system lives up to hype, it'll go right back down. I would buy stock in Nintendo personally, what with the big press conference tomorrow. Nintendo stock right now seems to go UP with news.