Sony Screwed for PS3 Launch

A part of me can't help but wonder if this shortage was intentionally created to garner publicity... you KNOW they're going to do news stories about all the people lining up at 2AM to get a PS3.

DarkDragoonX wrote:A part of me can't help but wonder if this shortage was intentionally created to garner publicity... you KNOW they're going to do news stories about all the people lining up at 2AM to get a PS3.

Yeah I said this months ago. "I wouldn't put it past Sony to deliberately undership to create a buzz of people lining up to get it". (or something like that)

there is such a thing as bad publicity. And THAT is the kind of publicity the PS3 is gathering.

unless they can come up with a HUGE, stupendous, phenomenal comeback, they are seriously screwed.

Well, we pretty much aren't getting a launch either until 2007. With only 400,000 unit shipping to the US, Most people won't get their hands on it until 2007 anyway. I doubt our store will even get any if thats the case.

I love how as soon as there is bad news about the Wii, everyone says that it can't be true, but if it's about Sony, it's taken as great news.

However, with Microsoft claiming there'll be enough Xbox 360s to meet demand this Christmas and Nintendo's Wii expected to launch globally in the next couple of months, could the delay spell disaster for Sony? We'll bring you more news on the delay plus industry reaction throughout the day.

...Sounds like a teaser for a soap opera. As Warlock said, this could indeed be a very interesting November.

We already knew this was coming. With both problems with Cell and Blue Laser diode production, you knew one or the other was going to make costs rise and number of units produced drop.

I'd say them being screwwed for launch was already obvious. They just really can't make those Blue Laser diodes as easily as they'd like. I seem to recall though that some company (not Sony) has been making progress and getting better yeilds on the Blue Laser diodes.

Fucking awesome. Nothing would make me feel better than seeing Sony fail. This is the first step of many. Let the Wii dominate Christmas.

lord_jamitossi wrote:I love how as soon as there is bad news about the Wii, everyone says that it can't be true, but if it's about Sony, it's taken as great news.

That's because Nintendo's bad news is usually in the form of a rumour. Sony's is in the form of an official press release. Go figure.

Best news i've had all day.

lord_jamitossi wrote:I love how as soon as there is bad news about the Wii, everyone says that it can't be true, but if it's about Sony, it's taken as great news.

...Sounds like a teaser for a soap opera. As Warlock said, this could indeed be a very interesting November.

Well the Wii story was a rumor and not on a particularly reputable site. It turned out to not even be true. This is on IGN and I've seen it on other sites already as well. This is very much true.

People treat the news this way because frankly they've been expecting it like Mott said. I used to really like Sony, but they have been screwing the pooch lately. They make offensive comments about how the gullible fanboys will snatch up PS3s in droves even if it had no games, and other stupid crap like that. They copy Wii's motion sensor idea and then claim they didn't copy it. They price the thing at a rediculous cost just to push their retarded Blu-ray format on people. And then this comes along. It's like they don't even care.

I'll be getting a PS3 eventually because of the HDMI output and the fact there are a few titles coming for it that I want. But that doesn't mean I like what Sony has been doing.

It's not just Blu-Ray, though that is the more problematic factor at the moment, but the Cell processor as well. Both these key components are hard to make (they get very poor yeilds). I know Sony and many others insist that Cell is so awesome, and that Blu-Ray is such an important thing to have. But... they say the Cell CPU is inline with a triple core cpu pc. Hey wait a minute... the Xbox 360 is a triple core cpu design. Hm..... You need Blu-Ray for newer games because the 8-9gb DVD isn't enough. So now you have the 25GB (single layer) Blu-Ray disc. What do they use this for? Mostly streamed videos or audio. These are generally related to a game with a long story. Now what was it we did on Playstation with these huge game with lots of big streams, oh ya we put them on multipule discs.

You don't need Blu-Ray for next generation games. They try to tell you for HD blah blah you need a new more expensive medium. But the fact is if you need more room for enviroment content or streamed content, you can seperate it on multipule DVDs, or even store some on the Hard Disk.

I'm sure the PS3 will be a decent system, but again it seems like they walk the extra mile only to end up at the same place as the 360 which took a much shorter more efficant walk.

This isn't toally related, but I thought I'd throw this in here:

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Xbox_360_games_WILL_load_faster_than_BluRay_PS3_games

Now this site obviously isn't very official, but I have had this cooroberated from other sources. So even though the blue-ray disc will hold more data than the 360's dvds, the question then is how to get that data into memory? This might be ok for RPGs and the like that have the data spread out over a long period of time (i.e. lots of FMVs), but action-related games are going to be bound by loading time. So they won't be able to make good use of this extra disc space.

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Basically with every press release the PS3 gets worse and worse. Is anyone else wondering if they are trying to pull a "The Producers" here? (They wanted out of video games so they decided to do as much as possible to make it not work)

Once I started to read this, I laughed. Upon seeing the Hindenburg pic, I busted a gut

AtmaWeapon wrote:I laffoed

Basically with every press release the PS3 gets worse and worse. Is anyone else wondering if they are trying to pull a "The Producers" here? (They wanted out of video games so they decided to do as much as possible to make it not work)

Off topic, but I rented that movie because everyone said it was so great and it was a piece of crap. It wasn't even funny! Why the hell do people like that?

The film is rubbish. The play is fan-fucking-tastic. Go see it, if you can.

This is good news for people like me, who are really concerned with how Sony are doing. I say that in the nicest possible way, because I really want Sony to... points to picture that made him laugh for 10 minutes.

Cloral wrote:This isn't toally related, but I thought I'd throw this in here:

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Xbox_360_games_WILL_load_faster_than_BluRay_PS3_games

Now this site obviously isn't very official, but I have had this cooroberated from other sources. So even though the blue-ray disc will hold more data than the 360's dvds, the question then is how to get that data into memory? This might be ok for RPGs and the like that have the data spread out over a long period of time (i.e. lots of FMVs), but action-related games are going to be bound by loading time. So they won't be able to make good use of this extra disc space.

That's the same thing I was thinking. And even if you need an RPG with lots of FMVs or Audio Streams for speech, you can always use multipule DVDs. RPGs have been on multipule discs for quite some time and I doubt it bothers any players. I mean I could see some games where changing discs might seem silly but with enough effort I doubt there would be any need.

I think it's generally agreed though now that the only real advantage the PS3 has is the Blu-Ray disc capacity, which may not even matter.

Cloral wrote:This isn't toally related, but I thought I'd throw this in here:

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Xbox_360_games_WILL_load_faster_than_BluRay_PS3_games

Now this site obviously isn't very official, but I have had this cooroberated from other sources. So even though the blue-ray disc will hold more data than the 360's dvds, the question then is how to get that data into memory? This might be ok for RPGs and the like that have the data spread out over a long period of time (i.e. lots of FMVs), but action-related games are going to be bound by loading time. So they won't be able to make good use of this extra disc space.

The PSP wrestling game video linked to in the comments for that article is awesome.

Kairyu wrote:The PSP wrestling game video linked to in the comments for that article is awesome.

Is that the one where it takes the guy 5 minutes (mostly loading screens) to get to actual gameplay?

Yep, that's the one. And it looks like there were loading times for several of the loading screens. That's pretty impressive.

hahahaha talk about owned

there will be RIOTS over this one

Lilith wrote:hahahaha talk about owned

there will be RIOTS over this one

I could believe that considering there has been murder over stolen Xbox consoles. You can bet you'll see alot of PS3s going high on eBay.

Here's an idea. I should buy a 100 PS3s and then sell them all in Europe. Expect me to return with millions of dollars. Anyone remember the 1000$ PS2s that were faulty?

Lots of the first PS2s were faulty. They lost a class action suit as I recall which means they must fix the fault parts reguardless of wether your warrenty is valid or not. By now ofcourse no one's warrenty is any good on those units. You can bet with these new Blue laser drives, there's a good chance there will be more shitty drives that fail much sooner than they should.

i am yet to see a ps2 game that is multi disced and asks you to change disc during play... thus i assume there is a tech limitation to dvd's which is why blue ray is coming.... not that i would buy a ps3...

Blu Ray is coming for no reason other than DRM. It's a god damn joke. I hope the PS3, Blu Ray, HD-DVD and Sony all fail.

franpa wrote:i am yet to see a ps2 game that is multi disced and asks you to change disc during play... thus i assume there is a tech limitation to dvd's which is why blue ray is coming.... not that i would buy a ps3...

I guess you haven't seen too many games then...especially RPGS. Heck, there's even a few for Gamecube!

There's a 2disc game for PS1. Abe's Exodus. One of my favourite games ever.
AND IT'S 2D!

There are many PS2 multi dvd games. The reason for a new disc format is for a higher capacity storage medium as we start to need much more room for data than before. HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are merely the most popular formats of optical discs denser than DVDs.

Sony wants to get the Blu-Ray format going for its own $$$ motivations. That is one of the reasons they include it in the PS3. Now if you want the next playstation you are also stuck with Blu-Ray, probably in hopes that you'll use that or atleast use that over HD-DVD.

Again I think the 360 went the better way, sticking with affordable and much improved DVD technology. The DVD drive in the 360 is awfully fast. I'm sure everyone wouldn't mind more space on discs, but no one wants to pay the costs for it really. Blue Laser technology is still a high priced luxury item.