IMDB.com wrote:Yet Another Delay for Blu-Ray Players, Says Chinese PaperAnd the delays keep coming for Sony's Blu-ray high-definition DVD system. China's Commercial Times newspaper is reporting that Sony's production facilities have not been able to meet the demand for the diode that generates the blue laser at the heart of the HD system. Both Sony's own plants and those of Japan's Nichia Corp., the only two suppliers of the diodes, have been plagued by production problems, the newspaper said. The supply problem, it observed, could not only delay production of Blu-ray DVD players for Sony and other manufacturers, but could also delay the release of PlayStation 3 models, now scheduled for November.
Sony having trouble on two major fronts? What a treat. Maybe they'll lower the launch price of the PS3. I can see it now:
"PS3, now at a low low price of $399! Wait, did you want to play games? You'll have to buy the add-on when it comes out. In February. For $250. It's not like you greasey American nerds are going to spend your hard earned cash on girls or something ridiculous like that. Powered by CELL technology, PS3 rendered women are proven to be 53% hotter than real chicks, and are 100% guaranteed to obey your every command. As long as that command is either jumping or hitting a volleyball."
W00t!! Sony is dying, go secret squirrel chewing on wires of sony's manufacturing plants go! Squirrel?
No if anything sony will just throw in HD DVD drives and call em Blu Ray drives and work blu ray drives to the point where they can play both HD DVD and Blu ray discs thus jacking up the price of the future PS3 consoles when they are released in 2012... DUN DUN DUUHH!!!
Um, HD DVD and Blu Ray BOTH use Blue Laser diodes. Neither technology will exist without these parts. The main difference between BluRay and HDDVD is the wave length/laser spot size. BluRay stores more data because the laser pin points a smaller spot.
Anyway, if they problem is not solved you could see major shortages for the PS3 and all Blue Laser technology or even higher prices for such.
The reason why Toshiba's competing HD-DVD players aren't having trouble is that the diodes aren't being supplied by the same people. I sincerely hope that they get smashed into the ground on both fronts. I can't imagine how much it will shake the PS3 sales if Blu-Ray looses the format war and makes the $600 box useless as a next gen DVD player.
Well that's really uncertain, because Sony has a movie publishing/making division so certain Sony Pictures films come out on DVD and Blu Ray, not DVD and HDDVD. So Sony could put up a fight, but if problems like these persist, it may be another of many dead Sony formats. That wouldn't bother me really. All that bothers me is HDDVD's inferior capacity to BluRay.
Oy... You know, the only problem is, the worse things get, the more we're going to be hearing from Sony fanboys screaming "ZOMG Gaytendo SUX!"
Yeah, and we've got enough problems with the Nintendo fanboys screaming the same about Sony.
lol
One of the big problems for the PS3 is Sony is assuming that they can ride the Blu-Ray technology. When the PS2 came out, DVD players were pretty expensive. So you could either buy a standalone DVD player, or one that could also play games (i.e. the PS2) for about the same price. That really boosted PS2 sales. And now they think the same will happen with the PS3 and Blu-Ray. Problem is, Blu-Ray (and HD-DVD) don't make that big of a difference if you don't have a HDTV. And at this point in time, not that many people do. So for most people, there's really no reason to get a Blu-Ray player.
and lurking in the shadows in Bill Gates, waitng for the most crippling moment to strike...
BAM!
"allright sony, we gotcha. We now OWN you! it's par tof our nefarious scheme to take over teh world!"
but seriously, I can't believe that people bash the Wii so much, and sing the praises of the PS3, which, by all acounts, is gonna bomb really badly.
I'm a devoted Nintendo customer, but you don't see me running around yelling "WTFWTF!!! PS3 = crap!"
Cloral wrote:lolOne of the big problems for the PS3 is Sony is assuming that they can ride the Blu-Ray technology. When the PS2 came out, DVD players were pretty expensive. So you could either buy a standalone DVD player, or one that could also play games (i.e. the PS2) for about the same price. That really boosted PS2 sales. And now they think the same will happen with the PS3 and Blu-Ray. Problem is, Blu-Ray (and HD-DVD) don't make that big of a difference if you don't have a HDTV. And at this point in time, not that many people do. So for most people, there's really no reason to get a Blu-Ray player.
Exactly man. If HDTVs were affordable, ya you'd see BluRay/HDDVD take off. But its extremely expensive and critics say the improvement in movies is not all that great. For TV it certainly can be nice. But movies thanks to DVD have looked great for some time now. DVD is still perfectly viable too. Really I think Blu-Ray is too early. Blue Laser technology is horribly expensive, and it's purpose is widely not adopted (HDTV).
something i dont like (this is all an assumption... i have no idea what im talking about) is that since blue ray discs are higher capacity/density it will make them lots more fragile... (but i think there in plastic cases kinda like a hdd.)
Dechipher wrote:Yeah, and we've got enough problems with the Nintendo fanboys screaming the same about Sony.
Hey! It's not just us. There's also XBox fans. Although I will admit there aren't many of them. 😉 While I admit there are a lot of 'OMFG Sony suxors! ' on the net, I like to think that people here on AGN take a bit more thought and care explaining their views.
I'm going to get a Wii because I think it'll be a lot of fun to play, and it'll have some killer games on it, and I think that Sony will fail with the PS3 because they're trying to force all this new technology on us when we're clearly not ready. If they hadn't been so obsessed with trying to convert us all to Blu-Ray, then they might have come up with a decent, competetive console. But as things stand, theyre just digging deeper and deeper.
maybe everything is a lie about sony and it is all a ploy to surprise us when they release a cheap non blue ray console instead?
A regular DVD via component HD (i have a HDTV, but not HDMI compatible), looks amazing. I may eventually use a HD-DVD or Blu Ray disc for a good data storage capacity when the writer kits are < $200. Until then, not interested. I hope that Sony's venture into this technology ends up costing them dearly. Betamax, UMD, it's about time they learn their lesson.
Goki is right. When my brother bought my parents our DVD player a few years back, he had the foresight to buy component cables. Then he played my mom's VHS copy of Robin Hood: Prince of Theives at the same time as the new DVD copy he bought her. After a little bit of explaining for my grandparents sake, he flipped between the two channels, and the difference was incredibly obvious. Sound and picture were incredibly superior.
The high-capacity disc technology is great, but only if people can actually use it to a worthy end. And from what I've heard, you practically need a 40' HDTV in order to notice. I can't even recall if the sound quality was much better or not.
franpa wrote:something i dont like (this is all an assumption... i have no idea what im talking about) is that since blue ray discs are higher capacity/density it will make them lots more fragile... (but i think there in plastic cases kinda like a hdd.)
TDK developed a new disc surfacing technique to combat this potential issue. BluRay discs won't require a special caddy. They are still as fragile as CDs or DVDs, maybe more so, but what do you expect. It's meant to be cared for like that.
Right on, Mott. I could never understand why people would be so abusive to their CD's. I care for them each like newborn infants, fresh from the womb of some beautiful woman. But then again, I'm crazy.
Actually, you probably treat them like an array of tiny invisible to the naked eye bits of data that could be ruined and rendered useless with ease. Oh wait, that's what it really is. While they are infact durable to some extent, some people really don't understand how "durable" that means. They should always be located in a jewel case or in a properly working drive. They are ofcourse most likely to be damaged outside of those.
About Sony again, apparently there is ANOTHER lawsuit coming this time said to involve the entire playstation line (ps1,ps2,psp). Fun fun. And more reports that Cell chip yeilds are still dogshit levels.
I agree with the whole 'taking care of DVDs thing'. I no longer to go blockbuster to rent movies, as every second movie i rent is scratched so severely it will not play correctly. I can't understand what the hell people do to these things. I'd be absolutely shocked if i were to walk into someone's house and see DVDs scattered on the floor, being kicked around as they walk. The fact these are rental discs (read: not even their property), it sickens me even more.
Ugh, no kidding. I treat my disc-based media as though they were the most delicate things on the planet. Every time I buy a used DVD or game, and there are visible scratches, I can't help but wonder How the hell people manage to get them that way. The only time a disc needs to be out of it's jewel case is when you're in the process of putting it in the drive.
Incidentally, am I the only person who *HATES* it when PC game discs comes in paper/cardboard sleeves? I'm rather miffed when just sliding the disc in/out of it's original case can damage it. Would packaging the disc in a nice, plastic case REALLY be that hard?
I don't mind flexible cases so much, but then again, I'm more concerned about scratching my discs on the sharp plastic corners of jewel cases. Go figure.
Taking care of a CD is like taking care of a pair of glasses. Subtle wear and tear is inevitable, but deep gouges and scratching are a result of simple neglect. I've had the same pair of glasses since 2001, and they're showing wear and tear because I've dropped them, handled them, used coarse materials to clean them, etc. I've had my copy of StarCraft: Brood War since 1998, and I dare say, while it does show signs of gentle use, it's probably in better shape than my specs.
EDIT: Sony's video game investments continue to flop...
IMDB.com wrote:Target Dropping UMD Movies
Target department stores removed movies in the UMD format from its shelves last week, several websites that track home-video releases reported Thursday. UMD cartridges can only be played in Sony's PlayStation Portable devices. In recent weeks, there have been reports that the cartridges have found few buyers. Some websites have suggested that Wal-Mart, the nation's largest home-video retailer, may be the next to clear out its UMD supply.
i wanted a PSP, and it looks like soon that buying UMD's will be dirt cheap. yes, in many eyes the PSP may suck endless amounts of balls, but if i can get one for 1/2 to 1/3 the price, then i'm hittin that.
My StarCraft CD has NO scratches at all. It looks brand new to this day. 😉
Mottzilla wrote:My StarCraft CD has NO scratches at all. It looks brand new to this day. 😉
Yeah, well you're just freaky.
I have had a grand total of ONE game stop working due to being scratched beyone belief, and even then with a bit of care (and a disk repair kit) I was still able to get it working. Then I downloaded another copy of it and the original has never left the case since. I like to take care of my discs.
Back on topic: Sony suck. Die Sony, die. Etc.
DarkDragoonX wrote:Incidentally, am I the only person who *HATES* it when PC game discs comes in paper/cardboard sleeves? I'm rather miffed when just sliding the disc in/out of it's original case can damage it. Would packaging the disc in a nice, plastic case REALLY be that hard?
and that is why I always have some empty CD cases ready. Paper cases are just too damn flimsly.
I take pretty good care of my CDs. None of them have any big scratches.
goKi wrote:I agree with the whole 'taking care of DVDs thing'. I no longer to go blockbuster to rent movies, as every second movie i rent is scratched so severely it will not play correctly. I can't understand what the hell people do to these things. I'd be absolutely shocked if i were to walk into someone's house and see DVDs scattered on the floor, being kicked around as they walk. The fact these are rental discs (read: not even their property), it sickens me even more.
I don't understand either. My sister wanted to borrow one of my PC games, and sweared to it that she wouldn't scratch it up. I gave her the game in its CD case, and told her to always put it back in there. A year later, I find the disc is in a sandwich bag in the bottom of her computer desk, and looks like sandpaper was rubbed all over it. Where did the freakin' CD case go?
Really, is it that hard to put these things back and take care of them? Thats the last time she borrows anything of mine.
Grasshopper wrote:Really, is it that hard to put these things back and take care of them? Thats the last time she borrows anything of mine.
Tell me about it. My sister borrowed my GBA SP four months ago to play Wario Ware, and half an hour ago, while I was playing Yoshi's Island on my DS, the following dialogue takes place:
Sis: "I thought you were using the other one."
Me: "The SP?"
Sis: "Yeah."
Me: "No. You borrowed that around Valentines day."
Sis: "Oh."
She forgot she even had it.
goKi wrote:I agree with the whole 'taking care of DVDs thing'. I no longer to go blockbuster to rent movies, as every second movie i rent is scratched so severely it will not play correctly. I can't understand what the hell people do to these things. I'd be absolutely shocked if i were to walk into someone's house and see DVDs scattered on the floor, being kicked around as they walk. The fact these are rental discs (read: not even their property), it sickens me even more.
i leant 3 ps2 games to my older sister (moved out from home) and they came back scrathed to blazes.... its because there kids are retards.... but i woulda thought that my sis would have done something about it rather then look at them sit on the floor outside of there cases.... but in the end i got 60$ aud to replace them.... it should only cost like 10$ to replace them and she can keep the scratched copies...
Kids are lazy, it's as simple as that. I don't know how many times I left my NES games outside their sleeves when I was a kid. Granted, back then they were carts and not easy to wreak like that. CDs weren't even invented yet. But it is sad to see CDs/DVDs treated so poorly, considering they are so much more delicate.
Warlock wrote:Kids are lazy, it's as simple as that. I don't know how many times I left my NES games outside their sleeves when I was a kid. Granted, back then they were carts and not easy to wreak like that. CDs weren't even invented yet. But it is sad to see CDs/DVDs treated so poorly, considering they are so much more delicate.
Really now, CDs were introduced in 1982. ;p
As far as cartridges, you have to actually put crap in the slot to fuck up the copper contacts. But ya, that's much better for kids, atleast the no good PoS kids like today. I mean really... it's not hard to take care of discs.