Well, I'd hate for anybody to think I'm full of bad news, so I'll just post this quote from Shigeru Miyamoto regarding what must be one of the most long-awaited revivals in gaming history.
Shigeru Miyamoto wrote:Well, I'm actually working really closely right now with the director of the [original] game. Now, whether or not when we get the Revolution all set up and everything is finalized, well who knows? That might be one of those characters where everybody says, "Hey, with the way our console is designed, that would be a perfect match." My question to you is, if we made this game would you buy it? <Absolutely.> Well, we obviously can't ignore that. Okay, we'll get the Eggplant Wizard coming back.
For 5 points... what game was he being asked about reviving?
That would be Kid Icarus. That was from an interview a few weeks ago, I believe.
idontknow wrote:Questions about the Revolution:1) Can it download & play Gameboy, Gameboy Color, & Gameboy Advance games?
2) Can it download & play nintendo DS games? (Doubtful since it just came out)
3) How many controller ports are there? It'd be sweet if there were 8 controller slots for 1 system! Something not yet seen in a console as of yet! I'm also assuming LAN can be played with multiple systems? (Wireless LAN would be cool too! Imagine multiple systems & TV but you only need one game CD and NO Cables or Broadband adaptors!)
4) Aren't all the controllers wireless? And how does a system know like what controllers are for which player if they are not plugged into the controller slots, if they are wireless? And what does the controller look like?
5) Anybody know a release date, release month, or at least what quadrant of which year this system will be released?
6) Can the system play CDs (for music)? I know it can play DVDs, but will it need some sort of extension/program/accessory in order to do so or is it capable of doing so right out of the box?
7) Oh! And how much will the starting cost of the Revolution be?
1. No
2. No
3. There are 4 gamecube ports on the side, and the rev's wireless controller sytem will work similar to the 360
4. all rev controllers will be wireless. But nintendo has not unvield the controller.
5. TBA but i'm speculating may '06
6. Nintendo has not verified the CD compatibility.
7. About the same as the Gamecube (150)
EDIT: I'm sorry for going off topic but, there is to, an ingame rev trailer. It was of metroid prime 3 and it was shown on Filter (G4) and, sorry MS and Sony fanboys, but, Nintendo never lies and, well, THIS KICKS PS3'S PRE-RENDERED CRAP AND X360'S @$$!
You know I really wanted to get a Nintendo Revolution until you started a non stop sputtering of utter shit from your mouth.
Let's all just agree that all 3 new systems look really fucking nice. Alright?
Ganondork wrote:1. No
2. No
3. There are 4 gamecube ports on the side, and the rev's wireless controller sytem will work similar to the 360
4. all rev controllers will be wireless. But nintendo has not unvield the controller.
5. TBA but i'm speculating may '06
6. Nintendo has not verified the CD compatibility.
7. About the same as the Gamecube (150)EDIT: I'm sorry for going off topic but, there is to, an ingame rev trailer. It was of metroid prime 3 and it was shown on Filter (G4) and, sorry MS and Sony fanboys, but, Nintendo never lies and, well, THIS KICKS PS3'S PRE-RENDERED CRAP AND X360'S @$$!
You are one of the biggest idiots to graze these boards in awhile. Sorry, go ahead and ban me if you like, but someone had to come out and say it. Someone already answered these questions for him if you would have taken the time to go back to read, and at least they answered them correctly.
And how on Earth can you say it kicks anything's ass when Nintendo HAS BARELY SHOWN ANYTHING YET? Yes, they showed a small clip of Metroid, but the little bit they showed wasn't very spectacular at all. Nevertheless, it doesn't matter cuz it's so early in pre-prod. that the final product probably won't even include what was shown.
Quit going on and on about how your little favorite company can kicks every other company's ass just cuz you don't like the Sony and MS. We haven't seen anything yet, and they all look nice.
I know you guys don't like Ganondork, but we have General Bitching for a reason - keep your comments about him there. Consider this a warning.
Ganondork wrote:... an ingame rev trailer. It was of metroid prime 3 and it was shown on Filter (G4)
Yes, I remember seeing that during the E3 presentation. It only showed "3", I didnt' realize it was Metroid Prime 3 until after they had showed it. But I'd bet it was pre-rendered too. Not that it would have to be, but just because the nature of the show. They didn't show anything about the Revolution, so I just take it that the video is a little pre-rendered clip showing that MP3 was in development. I didn't take it like it was the actual gameplay footage.
But, if it was, at least its on par with 360 and PS3. :shrug:
Grasshopper wrote:Yes, I remember seeing that during the E3 presentation. It only showed "3", I didnt' realize it was Metroid Prime 3 until after they had showed it. But I'd bet it was pre-rendered too. Not that it would have to be, but just because the nature of the show. They didn't show anything about the Revolution, so I just take it that the video is a little pre-rendered clip showing that MP3 was in development. I didn't take it like it was the actual gameplay footage. But, if it was, at least its on par with 360 and PS3. :shrug:
You are correct in assuming it was pre-rendered footage. The GameCube hardware isn't finalized. Hell, all Nintendo showed for it's prototype was an empty box. I didn't think that the little bit of Prime 3 they showed was that impressive, though. In fact, I'm not seeing anything graphics-wise to justify making me go out and buy new consoles. If anything sells me on these consoles, it will be price and the games available. And unfortunately for me, Mario Spinoff 45, Zelda 37, and Metroid Prime 8 aren't enough to get me excited.
I never did get a chance to see the Metroid clip at E3.
My question is, how are they going to extend the Prime story? I think it would be boring to see another story about Phazon and Dark Samus (even if she/it is still alive)
Any speculation on the controller?
I don't know what to expect the controller, but given Nintendo's track record lately, it's not gunna be something that I like. A lot of the theroies I have been reading about the controller lately don't make too much sense, just because Nintendo said it would be something that would fundamentally change the way we play games, and that it would be acessable to anyone.
The most common complaint I hear about controllers from non-hardcore gamers are that there are too many buttons. Maybe that has something to do with it.
I'm also not entirely convinced that the "revlolution" lies completely within the controller.
Vegeta, the clip wasn't really that much. I'd say it was about 10 seconds long. And just showed Samus jumping our of a remodelled ship and onto the ground. It displayed the number 3, maybe Metroid Prime, I can't remember. And that was pretty much it.
The rumor I heard is that the controller will be a touch-screen controller or something.
Reggie didn't reveal anything about it at E3, but said, "If you look at all of our past controllers, NES, SNES, N64, and line them up, they're all very different. Think about it - what kind of controller would let you play games from all of those systems?" After hearing that, I'm thinking maybe that rumor was true.
I don't think it will be touch screen. There is no way that could work conviently as a controller. I mean, with DS you were LOOKING at the screen as the game screen. With this you need to look at the tv screen so you'd have to keep switching between the two. It just doesn't seem feesable.
I do think that gyroforce or whatever thing that was being talked about earlier will be part of it though. From what I understand it's something along the lines of what those Kirby Tilt n' Tumble games do, where you'd physically move the controller and it affects stuff on screen. I can see them doing that.
A touch screen would be pretty expensive tough. And easy to break. I doubt they'll have one.
Yeah, I don't see a touch scree controler being feasible. You'd go crazy switching from TV screen to controler, they'd break even easier than the current controlers, they aren't exactly intuitive.... No there's too many problems with a touchscreen controler.
Removable buttons. That way you'd only need a certain amount for each game or whatever. I'm not sure how that'd work. Maybe a slide on cover for unused buttons, and then a switch to pop them up when you want more buttons? That would allow you to play NES/SNES/N64 games with the same controller, as well as never having more buttons than neccesary, unless you wanted to.
*shrug* Just an idea.
Dechipher wrote:Removable buttons.
This controller has removable buttons...
http://www.radicauk.com/product/74160.htm
I don't think it will be something like that. That isn't revolutionary, that's just customizable.
Wow. I didn't think this thread would go on so long, or be so big. I'm so proud of my little creation! <Sniffs, wipes tear from eye>
Anyway. A wee bit more information, thanks to IGN, which is fast becoming my main source of information due to Gamespot being absolutely useless. Check it out.
I'm not saying like customizable buttons. I'm talking hidable. I'm not sure that was clear in my first post. I mean, you can hide the buttons in your controller when you don't need them. Then you wouldn't have more than neccesary, but they'd still be connected to the controller. I'm sure Nintendo could find a way to do that.
What about perhaps a touchscreen, with all the buttons on this pad - but only the buttons or controls needed for the game?
It was a thought I had when I saw removable buttons.
Surely, for example, in a fishing game, on the screen you see a reel, which with a stylus or your thumb, you must reel in by whizzing your finger around.
Or, in a game where you are a DJ, the deck would be on the touchpad, in whihc case you slide the nobs up and such.
This would then make things easier for casual gamers, who's only have to master a few buttons for certain games.
However, I don't like that idea, I was just merely suggesting it. Becuase, that idea, while it might be quite intriguing, would not only be expensive and in many ways unneccesary, but that is hardly revolutionary, and odes not change the way you play, really.
No, I think that, if the thing does have a touchscreen, it will only play a small part in the 'revolution', which will be of a much grander scale.
Well, I hope. What I'm worried about is that it will be a touchscreen, and will be seen as amazing. WHere have I seen that before... by the same company?
I'm sure it won't be touchscreen. They mentioned that they expect kids as young as 5 to play this and don't want anything the kids might easily break. If they're reluctantly about internal hardrive you can bet they won't go with touchscreen.
A control stick. That'd be unlike any other controller on the market....
I don't think Nintendo would put a touch screen on a controller. One, it's preposterous, and Two, it is in no way revolutionary, considering the DS was just released. I don't think Nintendo is dumb enough to do that. I don't think anyone is dumb enough to do that.
EDIT Axel beat me to it.
This is very interesting...
http://cube.ign.com/articles/624/624200p1.html
Apparently, Nintendo has opted to not include any High Def. support for the Revolution. I'm not quite sure what I think about this... I appreciate that they are trying to make their console cheaper, but I still think they are making the same mistake they made with cartridges... they aren't embracing new technology. It bit them in the ass once before, and I think it will do it again. This doesn't really do anything to help their image with the casual gamer, either.
Having seen the 2 side-by-side, I can say right now that games look insanely better in HD. Nintendo is stupid for not going that way. Besides, it's just another thing that's going to make their console uncompatible with the other 2, meaning that less developers are going to want to release games for it.
I figure the Rev. controller will be quite simillar to the GC controller. The GC controller already has all the needed buttons for NES, SNES, N64 and GC. How many more buttons do you think they'll need?
Insanely better? Um ok... but you DO know that the percentage of people who own HD TVs is actually really low right? I for one, don't believe HDTV would look that much better. However I don't know if I've ever seen an HD signal and regular signal together. To me it just seems like the same old resolution whore wars. *shrug*
I have seen them side-by-side, and there is a considerable difference in color depth and such. It does look a lot better. Granted, if you've never seen it, you won't know what you are missing. HD in itself doesn't mean much to me, I'm not the big of a gaphics whore, but this could mean more trouble for Nintendo's third party woes. Scenario, a game is released for all three consoles. The game is going to look ebtter in Sony and Microsoft's HD shots than in Nintendo's low-res shots. Casual gamers will see this, say Nintendo's graphics suck, and buy the X360 or PS3 version instead. 3rd party will blame poor sales on Nintendo's console and pull support for them.
Like I said, I am not a graphics whore, but I still think this isn't the brightest move Nintendo has made. The HD deal probably won't be a factor in my purchase decision.
Another thing to keep in mind is that the number of people owning an HD-enabled television in the US should increase dramatically by the end of this console generation. The government-imposed deadline for HD is 2008 (meaning, all non-HD brodcasts will stop on Jan. 1st, 2008 or 2009, I can't remember). That being the case, the prices of HD sets will drop and more people would be inclined to buy one. That is if the government deadline isn't changed, which there is no reason to believe it won't.