Yeah, seriously. Are cords THAT much of a hassle? I've never had any noteworthy problems with them, so what the fuck is the point of dealing with a BATTERY instead?! Not only is there that drawback, but also the lack of force feedback on GCN with the WaveBird. Lame. Let's hope that they'll make tethered Revolution controllers to go into the GameCube controller slots that the system has.
As for the whole backwards compatibility thing, I think it's pretty cool, but it has the drawback of not using the original controller (unless companies start coming out with compatible NES/SNES/N64 controllers) and also making any games you own that are available for download on the system worth even less in some cases (though that one won't affect all that many people too much, I'm sure).
And I'm also a bit bothered by the self-loading disc reader. I'd much rather have a tray. Hopefully they'll change that, but I highly doubt it'll happen since chances are it'd make the system bigger, even if they used those really thin trays.
Despite the tray issue and the wireless controllers, I'm pretty excited about this system. I won't be getting many, if any, downloadable games (though I do think it's a very intriguing idea, and has given me a good idea of my own), but even so, I can't wait to see what designers can do with the extra power and more game space. And, of course, the best of all: online gameplay. I'm really happy with my GameCube, and Revolution looks to be all that and more especially because of free online play, which I'm very excited about. So, hopefully it'll live up to my expectations and deliver the traditional experience I want as well as maybe something new. I just hope they don't mess it up by getting too, uh, revolutionary, like having touch-screen controllers with no buttons or sticks.
Yeah, seriously. Are cords THAT much of a hassle? I've never had any noteworthy problems with them, so what the fuck is the point of dealing with a BATTERY instead?! Not only is there that drawback, but also the lack of force feedback on GCN with the WaveBird. Lame. Let's hope that they'll make tethered Revolution controllers to go into the GameCube controller slots that the system has.
As for the whole backwards compatibility thing, I think it's pretty cool, but it has the drawback of not using the original controller (unless companies start coming out with compatible NES/SNES/N64 controllers) and also making any games you own that are available for download on the system worth even less in some cases (though that one won't affect all that many people too much, I'm sure).
And I'm also a bit bothered by the self-loading disc reader. I'd much rather have a tray. Hopefully they'll change that, but I highly doubt it'll happen since chances are it'd make the system bigger, even if they used those really thin trays.
Despite the tray issue and the wireless controllers, I'm pretty excited about this system. I won't be getting many, if any, downloadable games (though I do think it's a very intriguing idea, and has given me a good idea of my own), but even so, I can't wait to see what designers can do with the extra power and more game space. And, of course, the best of all: online gameplay. I'm really happy with my GameCube, and Revolution looks to be all that and more especially because of free online play, which I'm very excited about. So, hopefully it'll live up to my expectations and deliver the traditional experience I want as well as maybe something new. I just hope they don't mess it up by getting too, uh, revolutionary, like having touch-screen controllers with no buttons or sticks.
AtmaWeapon wrote:Now it's time to see some games. An ugly girl in a pretty dress is still an ugly girl.
That is SO going in my sig! 😃
Out of all the consoles, Revolution looks the sexiest. I do believe it's the only console to not model itself on a lens - am I right? :tongue: Even so, it's nice to have Nintendo opening up to new ideas. The downloadable games sounds cool, even though I won't be able to use it (no internet in my room), and backwards compatability is a big BIG plus, as I knew it would be.
I like the idea of wireless controllers, but only there's a decent rumble pack and the battery lasts longer then 5 minutes. I believe I remember hearing somewhere that you'll be able to plug in Gamecube controllers and use them... that would be a good thing to do, if they can.
Again, I will reserve my final judgement until I see some games, but so far all indicators look good..!
AtmaWeapon wrote:Now it's time to see some games. An ugly girl in a pretty dress is still an ugly girl.
That is SO going in my sig! 😃
Out of all the consoles, Revolution looks the sexiest. I do believe it's the only console to not model itself on a lens - am I right? :tongue: Even so, it's nice to have Nintendo opening up to new ideas. The downloadable games sounds cool, even though I won't be able to use it (no internet in my room), and backwards compatability is a big BIG plus, as I knew it would be.
I like the idea of wireless controllers, but only there's a decent rumble pack and the battery lasts longer then 5 minutes. I believe I remember hearing somewhere that you'll be able to plug in Gamecube controllers and use them... that would be a good thing to do, if they can.
Again, I will reserve my final judgement until I see some games, but so far all indicators look good..!
I'm not a huge fan of wireless controllers, but I have had problems with cords in the past. Imagine, if you will, playing Star Fox 64 and getting to Andross' Brain for the first time. You've plugged him several times and got a working pattern out, suddenly the dog comes out of nowhere, trips over the cord, pulls it out, and the cursed Brain grabs your Arwing and yanks of both wings. Or finally getting to the final boss on your first playing of Ratchet and Clank, when you lean back to grab your drink, the cord yanks back, pulls the system down, and all save data on your memory cards is erased. That's when I started buying extension cords so that no matter where I sit I still have plenty of slack.
But hey, there's no guarantee that the controllers are wireless just yet, I mean, maybe they plug into the back of the system, or something. If worse comes to worst someone will probably come out with a controller that plugs into the outlet so you don't need to worry about power, or maybe replaceable power packs and a charger. If it comes with two packs per controller all you need to do is pause when the battery low light comes on and switch battery packs.
I'm not a huge fan of wireless controllers, but I have had problems with cords in the past. Imagine, if you will, playing Star Fox 64 and getting to Andross' Brain for the first time. You've plugged him several times and got a working pattern out, suddenly the dog comes out of nowhere, trips over the cord, pulls it out, and the cursed Brain grabs your Arwing and yanks of both wings. Or finally getting to the final boss on your first playing of Ratchet and Clank, when you lean back to grab your drink, the cord yanks back, pulls the system down, and all save data on your memory cards is erased. That's when I started buying extension cords so that no matter where I sit I still have plenty of slack.
But hey, there's no guarantee that the controllers are wireless just yet, I mean, maybe they plug into the back of the system, or something. If worse comes to worst someone will probably come out with a controller that plugs into the outlet so you don't need to worry about power, or maybe replaceable power packs and a charger. If it comes with two packs per controller all you need to do is pause when the battery low light comes on and switch battery packs.
Has anyone here actually has bad experiences with the kind of drive the Revolution uses? Personally, not theorectically or guessing. Who actually has had problems? I agree that a tray or a top loaded machine like the GC would be nicer though.
Has anyone here actually has bad experiences with the kind of drive the Revolution uses? Personally, not theorectically or guessing. Who actually has had problems? I agree that a tray or a top loaded machine like the GC would be nicer though.
About the wireless controllers. Sony said that the USB ports can be used for anything such as controllers. I figure wireless will be standard, but maybe they'd make a corded controller for USB.
But since this is a Revolution topic...I swear, unless my eyes decieve me, that I had seen a shot fo the revolution (during the press conference) that if you looked close, you could see 4 rounded plugs, much like the GC controller port. Unless thats for GC controllers specific, if would be nice if they would do what I mentioned above. Have wireless as standard controllers, but have corded one as an alternative.\
Edit: I have no idea where I saw that... 😮dd: Maybe it was another console I saw... oh well, I guess well find out later.
About the wireless controllers. Sony said that the USB ports can be used for anything such as controllers. I figure wireless will be standard, but maybe they'd make a corded controller for USB.
But since this is a Revolution topic...I swear, unless my eyes decieve me, that I had seen a shot fo the revolution (during the press conference) that if you looked close, you could see 4 rounded plugs, much like the GC controller port. Unless thats for GC controllers specific, if would be nice if they would do what I mentioned above. Have wireless as standard controllers, but have corded one as an alternative.\
Edit: I have no idea where I saw that... 😮dd: Maybe it was another console I saw... oh well, I guess well find out later.
Well, the prototype Iowata showed at the Nintendo press conference was just that, a prototype. The final design will actually be smaller.
Well, the prototype Iowata showed at the Nintendo press conference was just that, a prototype. The final design will actually be smaller.
If yall want a good laugh, go take a peek in IGN's free Revolution board. The people who post there are usually stupid enough as it is, but now they have this whole thing going on about how Nintendo's press conference this year is a conspiracy and how that wasn't the revolution at all and such and how Nintendo has laid out this weird game that they are supposed to play in order to figure out what the Revolution really is.
They also seem to think that Nintendo isn't done leaking revolution info for E3. Just setting themselves up for disappointment, methinks.
If yall want a good laugh, go take a peek in IGN's free Revolution board. The people who post there are usually stupid enough as it is, but now they have this whole thing going on about how Nintendo's press conference this year is a conspiracy and how that wasn't the revolution at all and such and how Nintendo has laid out this weird game that they are supposed to play in order to figure out what the Revolution really is.
They also seem to think that Nintendo isn't done leaking revolution info for E3. Just setting themselves up for disappointment, methinks.
Yeah, the revolution isn't coming out for at least a year. We'll hear more as it's release approaches. Nintendo tends to reveal more new information at Spaceworld than at E3.
Yeah, the revolution isn't coming out for at least a year. We'll hear more as it's release approaches. Nintendo tends to reveal more new information at Spaceworld than at E3.
Indeed, but I can't remember the last time there actually was a Spaceworld? I kinda miss that little show, it was always full of good news.
Indeed, but I can't remember the last time there actually was a Spaceworld? I kinda miss that little show, it was always full of good news.
Thats pretty ignorant.
I feel sorry for Nintendo, but I guess its not anyone's fault but their own. A lot of their secrecy comes from the fact that they don't want people stealing the plans, and ideas, correct? At least I've heard that. But I'm pretty sure that Sony and Microsoft have their own plans and most likely don't give a second thought to what Nintendo is planning. I really doubt that people are spying on Nintendo's every move waiting to steal an idea, like Nintendo is the only game company that comes up with ideas.
I really wanted more information. Even Microsoft looked pale in comparison to Sony. And I figured Microsoft would have the pull to take some of the spotlight off of Sony. Sony has some amazing support behind them. And really, what is so wrong with Nintendo doing that to bring some support to themselves. I'm glad they have that thought that its really the software that drives the sales, but what about the developers that make that software, they need to see something to, and Nintendo just isn't showing.
And whats this about Metroid Prime 3. I didn't even know what he was talking about until I watched it a second time.
Thats pretty ignorant.
I feel sorry for Nintendo, but I guess its not anyone's fault but their own. A lot of their secrecy comes from the fact that they don't want people stealing the plans, and ideas, correct? At least I've heard that. But I'm pretty sure that Sony and Microsoft have their own plans and most likely don't give a second thought to what Nintendo is planning. I really doubt that people are spying on Nintendo's every move waiting to steal an idea, like Nintendo is the only game company that comes up with ideas.
I really wanted more information. Even Microsoft looked pale in comparison to Sony. And I figured Microsoft would have the pull to take some of the spotlight off of Sony. Sony has some amazing support behind them. And really, what is so wrong with Nintendo doing that to bring some support to themselves. I'm glad they have that thought that its really the software that drives the sales, but what about the developers that make that software, they need to see something to, and Nintendo just isn't showing.
And whats this about Metroid Prime 3. I didn't even know what he was talking about until I watched it a second time.
I don't think Nintendo's (in)famous secrecy is due really that much to protecting corporate secrets, but more so to the fact that they believe in the phrase "actions speak louder than words". They like to just give people the final product and are confident that they will be impressed by it rather than spouting a bunch of theoretical specification numbers to generate mindshare before the product is even released.
The GB Micro is the perfect example, it was a complete surprize, not revealed at all until it was a finished product.
I don't think Nintendo's (in)famous secrecy is due really that much to protecting corporate secrets, but more so to the fact that they believe in the phrase "actions speak louder than words". They like to just give people the final product and are confident that they will be impressed by it rather than spouting a bunch of theoretical specification numbers to generate mindshare before the product is even released.
The GB Micro is the perfect example, it was a complete surprize, not revealed at all until it was a finished product.
Well said theplustwo.
Also, I'm sure Nintendo isn't giving more details on the Revolution cause most of us know that if the specs are lower than the PS3 and X-Box 360 (which I have a feeling they probably will be), all we'd hear would be people saying, "OMG The Revolution will suck cause the PS3/X-Box 360 is so more powerfull!!1!!!1" even before we've even seen what Revolution is capable of.
Mottzilla wrote:Has anyone here actually has bad experiences with the kind of drive the Revolution uses? Personally, not theorectically or guessing. Who actually has had problems? I agree that a tray or a top loaded machine like the GC would be nicer though.
I have one of those self loading drives in my car stereo. I don't use it very much, but so far it has worked fine.
Well said theplustwo.
Also, I'm sure Nintendo isn't giving more details on the Revolution cause most of us know that if the specs are lower than the PS3 and X-Box 360 (which I have a feeling they probably will be), all we'd hear would be people saying, "OMG The Revolution will suck cause the PS3/X-Box 360 is so more powerfull!!1!!!1" even before we've even seen what Revolution is capable of.
Mottzilla wrote:Has anyone here actually has bad experiences with the kind of drive the Revolution uses? Personally, not theorectically or guessing. Who actually has had problems? I agree that a tray or a top loaded machine like the GC would be nicer though.
I have one of those self loading drives in my car stereo. I don't use it very much, but so far it has worked fine.
Its really sad when you look at all these news sites that cover E3 (ala MSN, my ocal newspaper, etc.)
Nintendo isn't even mentioned. The article is completely centered on XBox 360 and PS3, and which of those two will win the "sonsole wars." Nintendo really has only become a Niche player, I don't care what Nintendo fanboys say about it. When you lose mainstream attention, you aren't really a contender.
I dont know what Nintendo is thinking with this little Micro GBA. Okay, so I do know what they were thinking, they wanted to milk the GBA cash cow some more, but in all honestly, who could possibly be excited about Nintendo releasing the EXACT SAME SYSTEM again?
Its really sad when you look at all these news sites that cover E3 (ala MSN, my ocal newspaper, etc.)
Nintendo isn't even mentioned. The article is completely centered on XBox 360 and PS3, and which of those two will win the "sonsole wars." Nintendo really has only become a Niche player, I don't care what Nintendo fanboys say about it. When you lose mainstream attention, you aren't really a contender.
I dont know what Nintendo is thinking with this little Micro GBA. Okay, so I do know what they were thinking, they wanted to milk the GBA cash cow some more, but in all honestly, who could possibly be excited about Nintendo releasing the EXACT SAME SYSTEM again?
theplustwo wrote:Huh, it acutally says "Revolution" on it:
Interestingly, the "O"s of this logo are discs... perhaps it does not mean Revolution as in... "Vive la Revolution!", but in the context of: Spinning Disc. Now, I hope that I'm wrong about that. Nintendo have never lied before, but it seems rather inappropriate.
To me, the whole console is wrong. It doesn't look liek the sort of thing that Nintendo would come up with. A big black cuboid doesn't seem very original, (and yes, I know that Gamecube was indeed a cuboid). I hope they redesign it if they are real.
theplustwo wrote:Huh, it acutally says "Revolution" on it:
Interestingly, the "O"s of this logo are discs... perhaps it does not mean Revolution as in... "Vive la Revolution!", but in the context of: Spinning Disc. Now, I hope that I'm wrong about that. Nintendo have never lied before, but it seems rather inappropriate.
To me, the whole console is wrong. It doesn't look liek the sort of thing that Nintendo would come up with. A big black cuboid doesn't seem very original, (and yes, I know that Gamecube was indeed a cuboid). I hope they redesign it if they are real.
Grasshopper wrote:I feel sorry for Nintendo, but I guess its not anyone's fault but their own. A lot of their secrecy comes from the fact that they don't want people stealing the plans, and ideas, correct? At least I've heard that. But I'm pretty sure that Sony and Microsoft have their own plans and most likely don't give a second thought to what Nintendo is planning. I really doubt that people are spying on Nintendo's every move waiting to steal an idea, like Nintendo is the only game company that comes up with ideas.
"Since the console has two HD outputs, it is can be hooked up to two side-by-side HDTVs to projecting video in a 32:9 extra-widescreen format (think Cinemascope in your living room). Like a gigantic version of the Nintendo DS, the dual digital outputs also allow for an extended game display, with the action on one screen and either game information or video chat on the second."And, yeah, there are controller ports, so a plug-in controller will be released by SOMEONE, if not Nintendo. I know they're probably GCN controller slots, but there'll almost certainly be a plug-in version of the new controller.
The downloadable content sounds like an interesting way to combat piracy. They could do a lot of other things with that as well... like... say... Super Metroid with new stages and gameplay... online play with Mario Kart 64... you know, those little updates to classic games we'd all love, but which would never be released because that'd require producing a large amount of cartridges for a dead system...
Now here's a good question- do you like the flash memory cards, or would you prefer a larger (both in terms of size and memory) hard drive?
Grasshopper wrote:I feel sorry for Nintendo, but I guess its not anyone's fault but their own. A lot of their secrecy comes from the fact that they don't want people stealing the plans, and ideas, correct? At least I've heard that. But I'm pretty sure that Sony and Microsoft have their own plans and most likely don't give a second thought to what Nintendo is planning. I really doubt that people are spying on Nintendo's every move waiting to steal an idea, like Nintendo is the only game company that comes up with ideas.
"Since the console has two HD outputs, it is can be hooked up to two side-by-side HDTVs to projecting video in a 32:9 extra-widescreen format (think Cinemascope in your living room). Like a gigantic version of the Nintendo DS, the dual digital outputs also allow for an extended game display, with the action on one screen and either game information or video chat on the second."And, yeah, there are controller ports, so a plug-in controller will be released by SOMEONE, if not Nintendo. I know they're probably GCN controller slots, but there'll almost certainly be a plug-in version of the new controller.
The downloadable content sounds like an interesting way to combat piracy. They could do a lot of other things with that as well... like... say... Super Metroid with new stages and gameplay... online play with Mario Kart 64... you know, those little updates to classic games we'd all love, but which would never be released because that'd require producing a large amount of cartridges for a dead system...
Now here's a good question- do you like the flash memory cards, or would you prefer a larger (both in terms of size and memory) hard drive?