3D Realms has gone out of business.
Just posting it here in case no one saw the other ten million news sources.
Crazy news. I thought it would at least get released at some point. I can only marvel at the monumental incompetence necessary for a game development fiasco of this magnitude.
Of course, everyone should check out the obligatory list.
I'm really not that shocked. It would have been more surprising to see the game on shelves, to be honest.
Wow, thats very saddening. I grew up playing PC games by Apogee/3d Realms. I didn't think Duke Nukem Forever was coming anytime soon, but I didn't realize the company was in such dire straits.
R.I.P 3d Realms
Whelp, there go about a million Duke Nukem Forever jokes.
I was actually wondering how a game announced in 1997 with all those delays would meet with the standards of 2009.
I always imagined it'd end up something like Prey - I figured one day they'd just say "Screw it," ignore all the cool features they had planned, and just focus on putting out a generic shooter just so they have a product.
rock_nog wrote:I always imagined it'd end up something like Prey - I figured one day they'd just say "Screw it," ignore all the cool features they had planned, and just focus on putting out a generic shooter just so they have a product.
Prey did have all the cool features they claimed it would. The problem was, by the time it came out, those features were no longer new or interesting.
I thought the portals and out of body shit were awesome.
I figured they'd go down eventually if they didn't get that game done. And yeah, it would have been more suprising to see it released just as Janus said.
Someone could still pick up the rights and then release it. Of course, that would mean the end of all life in the universe. So let's hope that doesn't happen.
Somehow, I'm not surprised. I honestly don't think they were working on it at all for the last couple years.
Actually, last year there was some shaky-cam footage posted, so apparently they actually had something.
It's always sad when a bunch of fat, incompetent retards screw up a great intellectual property. I was really looking forward to this game.
Here's where I think the problem was. It seemed to be that they were too obsessed with building a groundbreaking engine. And so, every time a new game was released with a more powerful engine, they'd have to start over from scratch. They really should've just focused on the gameplay and the humor, and just licensed another engine. That's how Prey finally got released - they just said fuck it and licensed the Doom 3 engine (with a few awesome modifications, I might add).
Which reminds me, I didn't mean to bash Prey, I certainly thought it was fun, it's just as Bel said, by the time it was actually released, none of its features were really groundbreaking or anything.
They did say they had frequent engine issues.
But they also said they often played World of Warcraft.
That's Blizzard's secret tactic—their competitors spend all day playing WoW so they don't finish their projects.
Modus Ponens wrote:That's Blizzard's secret tactic�their competitors spend all day playing WoW so they don't finish their projects.That's diabolically brilliant.
Pity, I love Duke Nukem.
I'm mad because I was going to order the Commander Keen combo CD the day before yesterday and now their store is down 😡
You can buy Commander Keen off of Steam. Dont know if you wanted it for the sake of physically having it, but if you want it to play, its on Steam. I think its only $4.99 as well.
Commander Keen is really fun. I beat a couple of them back in the day when they were actually being released.
Beldaran wrote:Commander Keen is really fun. I beat a couple of them back in the day when they were actually being released.
I remember Commander Keen! I remember playing that on one of my step dads old computers. Fun game
I had Duke Nukem 3D when it first came out. It was a fun game, and the humor was refreshing (and a little shocking for the time), but the game wasn't as great as some people make it out to be. Why people are still clamoring over Duke Nukem 13 years later is beyond me, esp with so many other FPS games out there.
Good riddance I say. Maybe we'll stop hearing DN Forever jokes now...
vegeta1215 wrote:I had Duke Nukem 3D when it first came out. It was a fun game, and the humor was refreshing (and a little shocking for the time), but the game wasn't as great as some people make it out to be. Why people are still clamoring over Duke Nukem 13 years later is beyond me, esp with so many other FPS games out there.Good riddance I say. Maybe we'll stop hearing DN Forever jokes now...
Yea, good riddance, your right....who cares that all those people lost their jobs in an economy where it's already so hard to find one.
People are still clamoring over Duke, because Duke 3d was a genre defining game. When it came out, the #1 FPS was Doom. Duke introduced a character with attitude, a more adult setting (which was new at the time), jumping and swimming (also something unheard of at the time). People are...or were still clamoring for Duke Nukem Forever, because they were counting on Duke to reinvent the genre again.
Duke Nukem Forever has been a joke for a long time. Maybe if they threw in the towel a few years ago people would be more sympathetic. =\
I agree with Mr. 207. Duke Nukem 3D did things that DOOM didn't. You could fly, jump, cross bridges, jump through windows into other rooms, and probably a few other things that the DOOM engine wasn't capable of. On top of this, Duke had a voice and was edgy. I loved blowing demons to bits, but it was so much more satisfying when I got a cheesy one-liner to go with it. Duke 3D was king of the FPS genre until Quake turned it on its head with true 3D environments.
I don't think it was a good FPS; I think DOOM had better levels and was overall more well-designed. But I do think it was technically superior and because of that it was easy to overlook the shortcomings.
Mr. 207 wrote:Yea, good riddance, your right....who cares that all those people lost their jobs in an economy where it's already so hard to find one.People are still clamoring over Duke, because Duke 3d was a genre defining game. When it came out, the #1 FPS was Doom. Duke introduced a character with attitude, a more adult setting (which was new at the time), jumping and swimming (also something unheard of at the time). People are...or were still clamoring for Duke Nukem Forever, because they were counting on Duke to reinvent the genre again.
Geesh... yes, it's unfortunate the people at 3D Realms lost their jobs. I can't believe you thought what I wrote was in any way a comment on that. I'm saying good riddance to Duke Nukem because I don't consider it genre defining.
When most people think of DN, the language and potty humor come to mind first. I'm sorry, but that doesn't cut it for me. Doom was genre defining. Quake was genre defining. DN was not, imo.
With so many FPS games since, how would you have liked to see Duke change things?
UPDATE: I understand what Atma is saying, and he makes some good points. No doubt the people who made Duke 3D were really clever to do what they did with the tools available at the time. That doesn't change my opinion on DN. Seriously, if a new DN game was coming out do you think his attitude etc. would even affect people like it did back then? You see worse on cable TV.
I think at this point it'd be more nostalgia than shocking; don't underestimate the pleasing effect of nostalgia. It's the reason I've paid for LoZ at least 4 times.
They might have been able to make it shocking enough to have the same effect, but I can't say it would have been "better" for doing so. Some time last year the staff went on the 3d Realms forums and asked the users for suggestions for scripted events that Duke might encounter in-game, and almost every single user suggestion somehow involved rape, torture, sodomy, or genital destruction. It was fairly telling of the type of person who still believed in DNF.
AtmaWeapon wrote:They might have been able to make it shocking enough to have the same effect, but I can't say it would have been "better" for doing so. Some time last year the staff went on the 3d Realms forums and asked the users for suggestions for scripted events that Duke might encounter in-game, and almost every single user suggestion somehow involved rape, torture, sodomy, or genital destruction. It was fairly telling of the type of person who still believed in DNF.
Or you know, like 90% of the people who use the internet in general.
AtmaWeapon wrote:I think at this point it'd be more nostalgia than shocking; don't underestimate the pleasing effect of nostalgia. It's the reason I've paid for LoZ at least 4 times.They might have been able to make it shocking enough to have the same effect, but I can't say it would have been "better" for doing so. Some time last year the staff went on the 3d Realms forums and asked the users for suggestions for scripted events that Duke might encounter in-game, and almost every single user suggestion somehow involved rape, torture, sodomy, or genital destruction. It was fairly telling of the type of person who still believed in DNF.
As a person who on again off again frequented the 3d Realms forums, I really don't think that's true. Whoever told you that (if you didn't just make it up all together) either lied, or strongly exaggerated the truth. The forum was very heavily moderated (more so then even here), so you didn't have alot of idiots and rift raft in there.