Even after I turned those damn tool tips off, the quest editor still randomly crashed while I was browsing through the combo table. Turns out this is not a side-effect of the tool tips at all!:shakeno:
However, I only have this problem when I run ZQuest in Large Mode. I'm not encountering this problem with the Classic Interface.🙄
Okay screw it, I'm gonna figure out what's causing this once and for all.
I know you say it's random, but if it happens again PLEASE try to describe the exact actions you took that lead to the crashing? That'd be very helpful.
It's mostly while making tiles into combos that make to crash the program.
Its been crapping on itself like every 5 seconds on me tonight. Doesn't matter whether tooltips are on or off, but I can even just leave the mouse sitting in the bottom left corner, not over anything that should even be thinking of creating one, and boom, it crashes. I can usually get it to recover from one or two crashes with the debugger, but after that, it can't continue anymore and just constantly crashes until I terminate it. Gets me about 10-15 seconds total to get in, do what I want with the combos, get out, and save my work, otherwise its done for. If I keep the mouse constantly moving (and I mean constantly), it doesn't crash though. As soon as I stop moving it though, it crashes again.
Just out of having it kill over so many times in such a short period, it seems to do it less in windowed mode, especially if I keep the cursor completely outside the window, though it still does it fairly often, even if ZQ doesn't even have focus.
EDIT: Its killing over seemingly randomly even in small mode now, but more outside the combo table than in it. Sometimes just attempting to open or save a quest is crashing ZQ.
How about in 967?
Yup!:thumbsdn:
It took a but longer for it to crash when I was viewing the combos in Large Mode in 967!
Seriously, none of what's being said is at all specific enough for me to diagnose this problem properly. Especially since no matter how hard I try I can't replicate the crash myself.
lucas92 wrote:It's mostly while making tiles into combos that make to crash the program.
Questwizard88 wrote:Its been crapping on itself like every 5 seconds on me tonight. Doesn't matter whether tooltips are on or off, but I can even just leave the mouse sitting in the bottom left corner, not over anything that should even be thinking of creating one, and boom, it crashes. I can usually get it to recover from one or two crashes with the debugger, but after that, it can't continue anymore and just constantly crashes until I terminate it. Gets me about 10-15 seconds total to get in, do what I want with the combos, get out, and save my work, otherwise its done for. If I keep the mouse constantly moving (and I mean constantly), it doesn't crash though. As soon as I stop moving it though, it crashes again.Just out of having it kill over so many times in such a short period, it seems to do it less in windowed mode, especially if I keep the cursor completely outside the window, though it still does it fairly often, even if ZQ doesn't even have focus.
EDIT: Its killing over seemingly randomly even in small mode now, but more outside the combo table than in it. Sometimes just attempting to open or save a quest is crashing ZQ.
Well, to be honest, I think it might be both of these combined that are causing the editor to crash while viewing the combo table in Large Mode. By the way, if JMan can't reproduce it, then could someone like Dark Nation or _L_ try to figure it out instead?
PS: For the record, I think that large mode itself is very unstable, because most of the critical ZQuest Bugs are found in Large Mode...:sweat:
Ugh. I saw this exactly once, while typing up a post saying "I can't reproduce this."
Now, of course, I can't reproduce it any more. Sigh.
(It crashed for me when I opened the combo editor, and used the mouse wheel to scroll down the list. But, that didn't work on subsequent tries...)
Ugh... Anyone else still seeing this crash in Large Mode?
Lucas? Quest Wizard? Are you two still seeing this bug in 967?
And further more, are there any developers here that have a copy of 967 in which the combo editor randomly crashes in Large Mode?
Obviously if it's a problem for you it's something that needs to be looked at. If I could just replicate this bug once I could find out what's going on but that's proving to be difficult.
I got one just a little while earlier in the combo table. I had exactly one tooltip show up from the middle combo selector on the main screen, then went in to copy-paste some combos, and got nowhere. Crashed it after about half a second after the mouse stopped moving over a combo in the table. I can't get it to reproduce by doing those exact things over again either.
Hmm, I think I may be on to something here.
Everyone who's had this problem:
1) Is this occuring *only* when browsing the actual combo table (as in, you go to the Quest->Graphics->Combos in the menu or are selecting combos via the freeform combos dialog or any similar operation)?
2) How much memory do you have in your computer?
So far, I've had one crash in the Combo Tables (Fullscreen, 2x, Large Mode.) when I was about to implant a Relational Mode area, and make some space by hitting i a bunch of times. I have 2 Gigs of RAM on this WinXP PC.
ZQuest was using 88,000K of RAM after I was able to check Windows Task Manager after it crashed a second time. The Performance meters were extraordinarily spiky, for lack of a better term.
It's odd. Both crashes occurred just an instant before I was about to press i in the combo tables to move some combos aside. I didn't get to press it though. I can wait and wait, but the moment my finger draws near to the i key, it crashes. Interesting. I'll bet if I get myself a black cat and put an open ladder in my doorway karma will balance things out, huh.
I have replicated this......sort of. I went to quest, graphics, combos in the default tileset in large mode and used the 'i' key and moved combos a few spaces. Then I clicked out of the combo table, when I went back to quest, graphics, combos it crashed. I crash it twice in a row and couldn't do it again.
Crap if I know...........
Windows XP pro 1gig of ram. Pentium 4 2.80 GHz
And I just reopened it and did it again.
s2dve wrote:I have replicated this......sort of. I went to quest, graphics, combos in the default tileset in large mode and used the 'i' key and moved combos a few spaces. Then I clicked out of the combo table, when I went back to quest, graphics, combos it crashed. I crash it twice in a row and couldn't do it again.
Crap if I know...........Windows XP pro 1gig of ram. Pentium 4 2.80 GHz
And I just reopened it and did it again.
Actually, looking at it, it seems to be a seperate bug where inserting combos corrupts some memory.
I'm gonna release a build shortly to see if all the stuff I did makes the combo table crashes go away.
The combo table window has a memory leak independent of anything that may be buggy with 'i'. Fix committed.
o_O it seems Jman and Darkdragon committed the same fix...
So, is this fixed now?
It looks like it finally is. I haven't had ZQ crash at all, even in large mode now.