Life As We Know It Nearly Created in Lab

The_Amaster wrote:
Science alway changes.

Science never changes. Science is a method, not a collection of facts.

Just because knowledge changes doesn't mean we should engage in this scientific relativism. So Newton was wrong - his theory was still better than replacing gravity with the "Theory of Intelligent Falling." We can't just sit here saying that all ideas are equal and thus deserve an equal amount of time. Some ideas are clearly wrong; and others are simply flat-out unscientific.

Beldaran wrote:All true scientists admit this, and are even extremely proud of it.

Phattonez, you need to just shut the fuck up about science. Clearly you don't know what it is or how it works.

Beldaran wrote:Phattonez, you need to just shut the fuck up about science. Clearly you don't know what it is or how it works.

phattonez wrote: Why shouldn't the changing nature of science be taught to kids?

See? You don't understand at all. You're completely ignorant.

Science does not have a changing nature. Our understanding of the world changes based on the unchanging practice of science.

^^Fine, I should have worded it better. The things that we understand from science change. Are you fine with that?

that's what I got out of what you were saying...

and Im pretty sure we already do, why do you think we go to college?

Pryme8 wrote:that's what I got out of what you were saying...

and Im pretty sure we already do, why do you think we go to college?

To get a degree to give us an imaginary edge in the workplace over all the other people who also went to college.

Dechipher wrote:To get a degree to give us an imaginary edge in the workplace over all the other people who also went to college.

I encourage you to try getting a good job without a degree, and report back how much easier it is.

Bitch I'm getting three degrees. I don't have to worry about finding a job.

Except only one of them matters in the matter of getting hired.
But still.

Are the other ones music-related?

Shazza Dani wrote:Kinda like how you ignore every religion other than your own.

EDIT: What I'm saying is no religion is any more valid than another, so either you're asking scientist to assume that every religion is true; or only your religion because it's "more special". I'm sorry, but that reason isn't enough to convince anyone.

I'd love to hear you say that to the ragheads that would saw your head off on live television just for the hell of it.

Dechipher wrote:Bitch I'm getting three degrees. I don't have to worry about finding a job.

Except only one of them matters in the matter of getting hired.
But still.

and when you get out of school you won't know wtf you're doing, how to act in a workplace, and ask yourself "what is direct deposit?!". goodluck with that. im going to college earning my degree and working full time. not bragging, it's hard as hell and I want to drop out everyday, but I tough it out so that I don't have to live with my parents and can have the privacy of a nice apartment. hope you're enjoying yourself at what, 23? in your parents basement or some shit dorm hard at work earning your degrees.

I like Breaker because he's such a pleasant fellow. 😊

I have a degree that is completely unrelated to my current line of work, but I... wait, what are we talking about again? Life... know it... in lab. Got it. Okay. Yeah, I work at Brookstone where I try to sell expensive massage chairs to people who don't need them, and I certainly don't use my linguistics training very explicitly doing that. I often wonder how much, if any, it had to do with my hiring.

I somehow got wrangled into working in insurance. When I was 18 I was hitting monster, careerbuilder, and running around town throwing my resumes at everybody. I got quite a few calls, but they paid the most, so I took it.

Never in my life would I ever see myself working in a cubicle denying medical claims, which is all I did. I think I can count on my hand the amount of claims that I paid. I ended up quitting that job and moving to Gainesvillle.

Now I moved back to my old town and working for a title/mortgage agency. It'll probably be the same thing, except I'll be denying mortgages. The funny thing is, I'm making more money doing this than I will be getting an entry level job out of college.

Regardless, I'm still majoring in Economics and eventually International Economics. Then I can start fucking shit up on a world scale.

Beldaran wrote:I encourage you to try getting a good job without a degree, and report back how much easier it is.

I got a job as a trainman for a local railroad switching company and now I'm training as a manager of yard operations for the same company. All of this was done without college, and I found it much easier than trying to get a degree while working full time to pay for them.

College isn't for some people. There are jobs out there that don't require a degree and still pay well. Sure they may be jobs that are less than glamorous but they are out there.

the difference between a degree job and a non-degree job is about 50-100+ thousand dollars.

Breaker wrote:and when you get out of school you won't know wtf you're doing, how to act in a workplace, and ask yourself "what is direct deposit?!". goodluck with that. im going to college earning my degree and working full time. not bragging, it's hard as hell and I want to drop out everyday, but I tough it out so that I don't have to live with my parents and can have the privacy of a nice apartment. hope you're enjoying yourself at what, 23? in your parents basement or some shit dorm hard at work earning your degrees.

😃 Your ignorance is mostly my fault for not clarifying.

I'm getting three degrees. They are in Percussion Performance (which I started out on) Music Composition, and Music Education. I am pursuing these degrees because I want to learn. I have no fear of getting a job, because I feel like I will be good enough when I graduate. The Performance and Composition degrees won't get you a job. No one looks at your resume and says "Oh you have a performance degree from UNT, you're hired." but the experience you gain from working towards those degrees will. The Education degree is the only one that matters to employers, but in my field (percussion) it is not always a requirement. I don't care. I'm going to be teaching and I want to learn as much about it as possible.

For the record, I'm 20, and yes I live in a dorm (but as an RA, which is a job). I pay for my education through scholarships and working (did I mention I maintain a private studio of 14 students that I teach every week, as well as working with the High School's marching band throughout the season?) as well as performing for the odd job, and completing new works.

I'm here to get an education, and I'm fairly certain a career will follow that.
During the summers, I work at different places. And while Taco Bell and 7-Eleven are not the most glamorous places to work, you do learn a bit about how to act in the workplace (though I learn more when I play for random things, like musicals or whatever, as far as how to be professional.) I do know what direct deposit is, and I know when I get out of school I will have many opportunities.

Dechipher wrote:UNT

University of North Texas?

Beldaran wrote:University of North Texas?

Yup. That's a good school for music, all around. There are a ton of percussionists there and a ton of composers. I could be interested in going there for grad school - I feel like the atmosphere could be very beneficial.

But yeah. University of North Texas.

interesting...it's just a matter of time before the code of Life Science is cracked. They'll bring back species from extinction, and creating new "basic" life forms from scratch.

it will happen.

Dechipher wrote:Yup. That's a good school for music, all around. There are a ton of percussionists there and a ton of composers. I could be interested in going there for grad school - I feel like the atmosphere could be very beneficial.

But yeah. University of North Texas.

That's pretty cool. I didn't realize we lived so close.

I created some potential life into a napkin earlier while browsing the internet.

Breaker wrote:I created some potential life into a napkin earlier while browsing the internet.

Isn't it great that potential life is so damn fun. Too bad actual life is such a bitch coming out. Thank god I have a penis.