Beldaran wrote:It does not matter what you think I can afford. I think you can afford to give me $50. It doesn't give me the right to stick a gun in your face and take it.
Lol, didn't we have the taxes=fascism discussion before?
So OK, you don't want to pay more taxes. Fine. But how do you suggest we close the $500 billion dollar a year budget gap? Do you have $500 billion worth of programs to cut?
Look, I know you're an 'idealist' and you think the government has no business doing most of the things it does. And I'll agree that the government has gotten too big, that too much power is concentrated at the federal level instead of the state and local levels. But there's a difference between being an idealist and being a realist. You liken yourself to the founding fathers, but they were men of action. You, on the other hand, refused to vote. You know what that means? You forfeited the right to complain. If you don't vote, you give up your voice.
rocksfan13 wrote:Wait? What wait? I walked in, voted, and was out in a matter of 5 minutes.
+1 vote for Obama in PA.
It took me all of two minutes to cancel out your vote. :tongue:
Cloral wrote:Lol, didn't we have the taxes=fascism discussion before?So OK, you don't want to pay more taxes. Fine. But how do you suggest we close the $500 billion dollar a year budget gap? Do you have $500 billion worth of programs to cut?
Putting aside for a moment the fact that higher tax rates ≠ more government revenues, I'm sure we could easily find $500 billion worth of pork to cut.
I voted a week ago, so I only found myself in line for about ten minutes.
That was my contribution to the 3 whole electoral votes Montana is worth.
OBAMA GOT PA WOOOOOT!!!! :O
Obama also got Ohio... that's huge.
Ohio is the first big news of the night. Good news.
Cloral wrote:
You, on the other hand, refused to vote.
I didn't refuse to vote. I read that my candidate was excluded from the ballot in my state.
Cloral wrote:If you don't vote, you give up your voice.
I did vote. The article I read was wrong. Libertarians were on the ballot. I voted Bob Barr.
Lilith wrote:Beldaran, once you dropped that engineering bullshit you've been bragging about in every post for the past year and a half you pretty much lost your credible intelligence.
Math and Computer Science, especially done concurrently, is hardly easy. I'm proud of my effort in school and I'm proud of the degree I'm getting.
It's true that I don't support the organized theft of people's property, like the democrats do. I guess I'm just old fashioned, in that I believe in property rights and the right to keep the results of your hard work. However, I will just have to learn to deal with the new socialist utopia we are heading towards. [shrug]
Took me about 25 minutes, +1 vote for Obama WI.
With McCain losing both Pennsylvania & Ohio, Florida may be the final blow on the McCain campaign. What I find interesting is that most of my friends who are McCain supporters are pretty ok with Obama winning. They would rather have McCain, obviously, but for the most part are single issue voters who know that Obama won't go door to door scrambling babies, and aren't to worried over it all. My Obama supporting friends are throwing election celebration supporters, and my friends who voted 3rd party are just sitting back acting cool, pretending like they actually did something worthwhile with their vote.
Lilith wrote:you lose...comrade
Oh well. Obama winning the presidency won't be the end of the world. This country is too strong for one man (even if he has the aid of a filibuster-proof Congress) to tear apart. I'll just prepare to hide as much of my income from the government as possible!
lol Mott, and I'd have to agree.
Yep, George Bush totally destroyed this country. Let's see... what was I doing eight years ago tonight... um, I was probably logged on here bitching about George Bush possibly winning the presidency! (That was during my liberal college days, I actually voted for Algore in 2000.)
Tobias_Daboi wrote:Two and a half hours at Veteran's Memorial in downtown Columbus OH. I went with my mom, and forgot my DS :[
Same place. Only about half and hour. But I voted weeks ago.