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House passes bill to sue OPEC over oil prices

35 replies · 6,237 views · Started 21 May 2008

The funny thing about electric cars is, even if you factor in the pollution generated at coal-burning plants from which the electricity comes from, they actually still contribute a lot less to pollution than gas-powered cars. It has to do with the fact that a) with a power plant, there are far fewer practical constraints, and so you can produce energy a lot more efficiently, and b) it's a lot easier to install various filters which can trap pollution in a power plant than it is in a car.

Cloral wrote:Your city has traffic lights on the highways? That's pretty messed up. Around here, all the highways are limited-access with no stoplights. Though that doesn't prevent them from slowing to about 10mph sometimes...

Traffic lights on highways? What the hell...? I don't even know how that makes sense...

I would think the toll way from AW's post would have to be a highway, and he spoke of red lights on it. If there's a toll way that isn't a highway or a bridge, then that's completely messed-up city design.

Ever heard of meters? They're on onramps, offramps, and some transition roads. So if they're on there, then some might say that there are stoplights on the freeways, just a technicality.

Yeah we've got some of those around here. But they don't stop traffic already on the highway.

Argh, this topic has become entirely about semantics. Probably my fault.

If you want oil prices to go down, you need demand to go down. So you need people to use less. Now I have a plan that will work but no one has the balls to do it, and that would be nuking China, India, Pakistan, and anyone else that particularly objects to this. After this, it is likely that these countries will consume much less oil due to a slight case of mass death. This will make your gasoline fill up much cheaper. And the good news is it won't cost you anything, because we already have the bombers, bombs, and missiles to do it with.

The thing is people don't understand their own existence. I don't think they understand the concept of Billions of humans on the earth. They don't understand their life style is much more comfortable than that of the vast majority of these people. They don't understand the limited resources and such.

It would certainly be nice if technology would bail us out. But without some truly amazing break-thrus we are left with the option of death. And I suppose it's not really an option either. The only options are will it be War, Lack of Resources, Disease?

Wasting less energy will certainly help us, but alot of shit has to change and will change one way or another.