Hello from the firestorm

I honestly felt only one earthquake, and it was just a tiny little 'thud.' California is practically on a fault line. 😛

No, the midwest can get it much worse, look it up.

phattonez wrote:No, the midwest can get it much worse, look it up.

It can but it doesn't. Ohio doesn't have four seasons. It's whatever the weather feels like doing that day. This morning it was winter, this afternoon it was spring.

We get tornadoes here and there and some are pretty bad but that's about the extent of it other than flooding which hasn't been too bad this year compared to previous years.

83 on my division two exam so that gives me a C on the exam. Not bad but I would have liked at least a B-

Ah, I see what you mean, phattonez. Even though the potential risk for earthquakes is pretty much all over the place (with a concentration existing in California and another along the middle portion of the Mississippi), mother nature may sometimes do otherwise.

Even though there is no meeting of plates in the midwest, the plate is very weak there and it causes huge earthquakes.

OK. First of all, fires don't happen here every single year. You're confusing southern california with the entire western united states. Secondly, we do get earthquakes on occasion, but we take that into account when we build so the damage is mitigated. Case in point: a few years ago, there was a six point something earthquake in the central california coast. The damage was minimal, and a total of two people died - they were killed when a historic landmark that was built before current building codes collapsed on them. Several weeks later, a similar sized earthquake hit Iran, and killed about 10,000 people. So while earthquakes seem like crazy scary things to people who aren't used to them, they are things we can prepare for and deal with.
Thirdly, we don't hardly ever get floods. There simply isn't enough water here. Your region of the country is far more prone to flooding than we are. Fourthly, only homes built in the hills are generally suseptible to the wildfires and mudslides. When there are wildfires, they generally start in the chaparral of the hillsides, which is unfortunate because that is the area where they are hardest to fight. Whenever the fires approach the populated lower areas, they can repel the fires as the built up cities give the firefighters defensible space. This most recent set of fires was unusual in that fires did reach into the cities, but this was by far the worst set of fires that has happened in my 25+ years of living here. And as you yourself admitted, unusal circumstances happen everywhere.
Now do I feel sympathy for the idiots who build their homes on top of the hills and then are surprised when the ground below them turns out to not be as solid as they first thought? Not a whole lot, they really should've known better than to build there. But you have to remember that the people who can afford to build on top of the hills have plenty of money and can rebuild without much trouble, so I don't think they generally need our sympathy. As for the rest of us who live in more sensible locations, it takes a pretty unusual event to put our homes in danger. Even though this might be somewhat higher risk than in some other places, we pay for that in our insurance premiums. So don't throw that tax dollar bullshit at me. Even when we do receive some government aid, with the high cost of everything out here we produce plenty of tax revenue out here to see the government throw some of it back our way once in a while.

Now for your attitude. You came into this thread and made a post that was clearly designed to provoke a responce. In fact, you directly stated that you were trying to hurt people with your first post. Considering the situation, that was a downright shameful act and you shouldn't've been the least bit surprised to get the responce that you did. Also, you implied that people shouldn't live here, but then denied that you are telling people where they should live. If you did not mean to tell people where they should or shouldn't live, then you might want to chose your words more carefully in the future.

phattonez wrote:Doesn't that whole Midwest region where the earthquakes can be bigger than in California include Ohio? I'm pretty sure St. Louis and Chicago are in that, but I think Ohio get some of it too.

Part of the reason that midwest (and eastern) earthquakes can be worse than Western ones is the bedrock. It's more solid in California, resulting in less of the force reacing the surface. By contrast, out here in the east the bedrock is less firm, meaning much of the force of the quake makes it to the surface, and can be felt for a long way in either direction (The one we've had in my lifetime was cenetered some 300 miles away IIRC).

Not to mention that in the east, buildings aren't designed to withstand earthquake forces.

FYI, The New Madrid Quake

Hope you continue to be ok over there Cloral.

I can see the sky again!

Sky? 😛

Cloral wrote:OK. First of all, fires don't happen here every single year. You're confusing southern california with the entire western united states.

I very well may be. But as you said, this entire scenario can apply to the entire western U.S.

Cloral wrote:Thirdly, we don't hardly ever get floods. There simply isn't enough water here. Your region of the country is far more prone to flooding than we are.

When I used the phrase "deluge-prone", I meant "downpour-prone" versus "flood-prone". I agree, the Midwest is much more prone for floods (more along the Mississippi than where I live, anyway).

Cloral wrote:Even when we do receive some government aid, with the high cost of everything out here we produce plenty of tax revenue out here to see the government throw some of it back our way once in a while.

And I suppose that a tidy sum more per month for home owner's insurance is a great deal for coverage on a burnt-down $500,000 home? I sure as heck would. 😉 But like I said at the top of this page, I cannot and won't go further into this subject.

Cloral wrote:Now for your attitude.

My attitude? You're speaking to me as if you are lecturing me.

Cloral wrote:You came into this thread and made a post that was clearly designed to provoke a responce.

In truth, the original reason I posted that is that I wanted to get that off my chest. I read it and figured that someone would be upset by it, but I was too lazy to revise it. One philosophy I follow is one set by AtmaWeapon: Do not take the Internet so seriously.

Cloral wrote:In fact, you directly stated that you were trying to hurt people with your first post.

A direct statement would be "I am trying to hurt you." But who cares.

Cloral wrote:Considering the situation, that was a downright shameful act and you shouldn't've been the least bit surprised to get the responce that you did.

And you should be downright surprised that I didn't retaliate via reputation. You too, Breaker. You're lucky I was/am in a superior mood. And it was not at all a shameful act considering the situation. Many people (in general) expect the nation to sympathize for them when something has happened to them, but they just can't take it when just one person doesn't. Same goes for Katrina, 9/11, etc. (BTW, I am not implying any of my personal views/beliefs on the aforementioned disasters.)

Cloral wrote:Also, you implied that people shouldn't live here, but then denied that you are telling people where they should live.

Quote me when I implied you shouldn't live there.

Soooo...... yeah. Despite this debate, I am interested in knowing the details back over there about you guys.

---

Because yes, I want the vast majority of the world should move to northeast Ohio and not be poor. Yes, that's what I implied. :sweat:

EDIT after an hour later of Curveballing: Uh-huh. I'm continuing with the train of logic in Cloral's first post of the page:

Cloral wrote:What, so you decided that the discussion is over, so it's over?

Yes, it is. I no longer have anything to add to the discussion/flame-Pineconn-because-he's-expressing-his-opinion-fest. Any of you can take it to the PM if you wish. I'm bailing out of this thread (since it isn't leading anywhere good for me) and will simply read any future discussion if it exists. I do not feel bad about/regret what I have posted to this point. Trust me, my intent, like I've stated, was to simply let a community know about my opinions, which are obviously not shared with the latter generation, if you may (but are generally shared with my school -- even someone who was born in and has relatives in the San Diego area).

[size=+1]However[/size], I do apologize if any of you have taken offense. You could say I got carried away, others that share my views could say I didn't. Never did I mean to cause any distress (which I couldn't previously have fathomed to have done).

Perhaps you're not open-minded, perhaps I'm not open-minded. Perhaps we both hold on to our values strongly, or even too strongly. Who knows. Whatever the case, things have escalated to a level that shouldn't have happened. Having said that, I shall take my opinions and be on my way. See ya in "So..." or whatever. Because I'm done here.

Cloral wrote:OK. First of all, fires don't happen here every single year.