So...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=nyse

That... Didn't exactly answer my question. I know what the NYSE is - I just wasn't aware they had parties.

Acronyms suck. I wish people could at least say the first letter after the first letter of each word, like, "NYSE" would become "NeYoStEx" At least this way, they'd have a clue as to which NYSE it'd be. I don't want to think of the New Years Stripper Execution when I think of the Stock Exchange.

ShadowTiger, you just reminded me of the NAMBLA episode of South Park.

Dann Woolf wrote:ShadowTiger, you just reminded me of the NAMBLA episode of South Park.

Ah, the North American Marlin Brando Lookalike Association.

NoAmMaBrLoAs. ... ... Good god.

ShadowTiger wrote:Acronyms suck. I wish people could at least say the first letter after the first letter of each word, like, "NYSE" would become "NeYoStEx" At least this way, they'd have a clue as to which NYSE it'd be. I don't want to think of the New Years Stripper Execution when I think of the Stock Exchange.

NeYoStEx could still be the New York Stripper Execution, ST.

Edit: Woot, 1 Kibipost!

Uh.... "Modus Ponens"? Riverman?

Interesting.

Modus Ponens wrote:NeYoStEx could still be the New York Stripper Execution, ST.

Edit: Woot, 1 Kibipost!

I just got my first six hours of collage credit, and I'm only fourteen! I took this CLEP science test today, and apparently I scored high enough for it to count as collage credit!

Pineconn wrote:Uh.... "Modus Ponens"? Riverman?

Interesting.

I got tired of having a different username everywhere I went. Modus Ponens has become my de facto internet name in the past few years, so I decided to ask the powers that be for a Rename Card. Rather than betting it in the Colosseum to fight a Doom Drgn for a pair of Marvel Shoes, I opted to use it on myself. (The Doom Drgn would've killed me anyway, what with the Fallen One and the N. Cross and all.)

...interesting. Modus means method, ponens means...?

russadwan wrote:I just got my first six hours of collage credit, and I'm only fourteen! I took this CLEP science test today, and apparently I scored high enough for it to count as collage credit!

I think they should take that credit away from you until you learn how to spell college right. 😉

You scored high enough for it to count toward college hours, great -- now find a college that would accept it. I found AP to be a waste of time, work, and money because of this. (Okay, except for the fact that colleges like to see some rigor in your curriculum.)

And even if they do accept it, I don't know how it is at most schools, but at the college I went to, unless you got a 5, all you got was an S (satisfactory). Which was fine if you just needed to get that class out of the way as a prerequisite for something else, but totally useless if, say, you needed that class for your major.

Amaster42 wrote:...interesting. Modus means method, ponens means...?

Here we go.

Modus Ponens is the name of a rule of logical inference. It's short for modus ponendi ponens, meaning roughly "the rule through which affirming affirms". It works like this:

1. If P, then Q.
2. P.
Therefore,
3. Q.

In other words, if you take it as given that the truth of one statement entails the truth of another, and you also know that that first statement is indeed true, you can then infer that the second statement is also true. It's very basic and we do it all the time without realizing it. Here's an example:

1. If I forgot to move my car, then I got a parking ticket.
2. I forgot to move my car. (Fuck.)
Therefore,
3. I got a parking ticket.

Any time the first two statements are true, the third must necessarily be as well. Consider:

1. If yellow is my favorite color, then the Seahawks won the Super Bowl a couple years ago.
2. Yellow is my favorite color.
Therefore,
3. The Seahawks won the Super Bowl a couple years ago.

Statement 1 is obviously false-- nothing about anyone's favorite color could have anything to do with whether one team or another won a football game. So even though statement 2 is true, the conclusion ends up false.

Also, once in a while you might come across a situation like this one:

1. If my hair is brown, then Obama has chosen Joe Biden as his running mate.
2. My hair is brown.
Therefore,
3. Obama has chosen Biden.

The first statement is obviously false, but the second is true, and, as it happens, so is the conclusion. However, one certainly could not validly arrive at that conclusion with the given premises.

My old avatar-- that weird blue square with the letters and symbols-- demonstrates Modus Ponens symbolically.

The bit about the "affirming affirms" is talking about how affirming the antecedent of a conditional statement (an "if-then"😉 affirms the consequent.

Modus Ponens has a sister, too, named Modus Tollens, short for modus tollendi tollens, or, roughly, "the rule through which denying denies". It goes like this:

1. If P, then Q.
2. Not Q.
Therefore,
3. Not P.

Thus, denying the consequent denies the antecedent. It is used in many of the same ways as Modus Ponens, such as:

1. If there was a ninja in the room who wanted to kill me, then I wouldn't be alive right now.
2. It's not the case that I'm not alive right now.
Therefo

erm2003 wrote:I think they should take that credit away from you until you learn how to spell college right. 😉

Pineconn wrote:You scored high enough for it to count toward college hours, great -- now find a college that would accept it. I found AP to be a waste of time, work, and money because of this. (Okay, except for the fact that colleges like to see some rigor in your curriculum.)

Oh yeah, I know "If P, then Q". I just didn't know what it was called in latin.
My personal favorite to break out at people is "Quod erat demonstratum"

Yeah, most colleges I've looked at at least look at your AP scores I mean, I pulled a 4 on my AP Language test, so I can probably get credit at most places. (I got a 3 on AP Goverment, but in one of the essay questions I completely disagreed with the premise it was based on and argued against the test, so I'm not suprised.)

So we have Ness, and now Jeff as an avatar. That leaves only Paula and Poo. Unless Mr. Saturn can enter the fray?

Mother characters make me want to claw my eyes out. Especially Mr. Bowlcut up there. x_x

Interesting you should mention that. 😊

So phattonez, does this mean we can throw you at people during forum brawls?

Sure, but don't expect me to do much damage.

But you're hell on shields.

Come on, nobody uses shields in Melee (I've never played Brawl so I wouldn't know about that).

I say we ban Amaster and Phattonez for using Mother avatars. I should own a copyright on those for being AGN's official EarthBound/Mother maniac!

You can't bitch about someone else using Mother avatars when your current av is a picture of Link.

Haven't I played as many Mother games as you, Russ?

Well, I had a pleasant afternoon - I cooked up a big ol' pot of shrimp gumbo, and now I'm relaxing with a nice margarita. It was a lot of work, I gotta say, but it was fun, and now I've got enough gumbo to feed an army.

phattonez wrote:Haven't I played as many Mother games as you, Russ?

I <3 the Mr saturns.

I love how they talk in graffiti. XD