All of this makes me wonder about Nintendo's future. I wonder how they will build on to the motion sensitive controller, even if they will continue the motion sensing. Eh, but this is becoming off-topic.
Get rich quick thanks to SCEA!
Warlock wrote:As far as what {DSG}DarkRaven said, aren't you agreeing with him? They might phase out the games division, but the company won't go bankrupt.
Pineconn's statement was more optimistic. I agree with his statement that Sony is too broad a corporation to go bankrupt, but only if you add the word "immediately" at the end of the sentence. I'm a native Michigander, and if anyone needs proof that no corporation is too large and broad to go to pieces, just take a look at Ford Motor Co.
Sony is in no immediate danger of dying, that's for certain. But if they don't shape up soon, they'll be in serious trouble in a few years.
Pineconn wrote:All of this makes me wonder about Nintendo's future. I wonder how they will build on to the motion sensitive controller, even if they will continue the motion sensing. Eh, but this is becoming off-topic.
Virtual Reality :P And not Virtual Boy crap, I mean good stuff :P
AtmaWeapon wrote:I'm not trying to say the Dreamcast was a bad system, but you can't cite its graphics and claim it was more successful than the PS2.
I'm having trouble seeing where he actually did that in his post. Better graphics, yes, outselling PS2, no.
Kairyu wrote:I'm having trouble seeing where he actually did that in his post. Better graphics, yes, outselling PS2, no.
Yes, I forgot to talk about that. If Franpa is a Dreamcast fanboy for saying that, clearly Atma is a rabid mutant fanboy for Sony. He only talks about the Dreamcast having better graphics in his opinion, and never even mentions anything about sales numbers. I think Atma needs an intervention.
{DSG}DarkRaven wrote:Yes, I forgot to talk about that. If Franpa is a Dreamcast fanboy for saying that, clearly Atma is a rabid mutant fanboy for Sony. He only talks about the Dreamcast having better graphics in his opinion, and never even mentions anything about sales numbers. I think Atma needs an intervention.Yeah OK so when in a discussion of whether the Dreamcast was a success or not someone jumped in and reiterated what had already been discussed about the Dreamcast hardware I misinterpreted it as support of the "Dreamcast was a success for Sega" position sorry guys. Mainly my emphasis on the fact that the Dreamcast was a good system is to avoid a backlash from Dreamcast fans, since they tend to be a little angry about their system. I can't really blame them; it'd be like Nintendo announcing in a month or so that they just kind of decided the Wii wasn't making them money and they were discontinuing support. (Only to make the analogy more accurate to the Dreamcast hardware vs. its competition at the time the Wii would have to be a machine capable of delivering HD resolution to multiple screens at once at full framerate. Seriously the Dreamcast was crazy powerful for its time.)
Also I'm finding it hard to get specific sales numbers for the PS2 vs. Dreamcast. Actually I tend to have troubles finding sales numbers for modern systems, let alone systems from 6 years ago when no one really cared how many units had been produced. Also I don't really want to devote a lot of time to this. However, I make my argument based on evidence that I feel strongly supports my conclusion that the PS2 outsold the Dreamcast. Based on PS2 having 105 million units shipped by Nov. 2005 and that Sega only produced 10 million units of Dreamcast, it'd take some divine distribution for the Dreamcast to have outsold the PS2. Focusing those numbers down into the timeframe is more difficult, but the PS2 article contains this statement:
Upon its release, the PS2 set the mark of being the fastest selling console at launch, breaking the record held previously by the Sega Dreamcast.I'm thinking this one doesn't require much thought to see how it applies to my point.
Of course, this is a complete digression from the original point which is every time Sony lets one of there executives have an interview the guy says something stupid that gets the gaming community up in arms. I think Sony considers this "free publicity" but it's not a good marketing stunt in my opinion if that is even what it is.
AtmaWeapon wrote:I'm not trying to say the Dreamcast was a bad system, but you can't cite its graphics and claim it was more successful than the PS2.
i never claimed it was more successful then the ps2... i merely claimed that it was most likely easier for developers to code for hence why they had superior graphics on inferior hardware.
AtmaWeapon wrote:Superior hardware and graphics do not make your system successful.
i know this well.
AtmaWeapon wrote:Remember the Game Gear? What about the Atari Lynx? They had color years before Nintendo got around to adding it to the Game Boy. Which one can you buy in an electronics store today?
only major reasons they failed where battery life at the time and cost.
{DSG}DarkRaven wrote:Pineconn's statement was more optimistic. I agree with his statement that Sony is too broad a corporation to go bankrupt, but only if you add the word "immediately" at the end of the sentence.
Well that kind of changes the meaning of the entire sentence, doesn't it? 😛
Warlock wrote:Virtual Reality :P And not Virtual Boy crap, I mean good stuff :P
That would be nice if virtual reality were even possible... for a gaming console. We'll see in 4 years. BTW, I've seen you posting at The Hylia. Your response was so great about that lady at BBC.
Pineconn wrote:Well that kind of changes the meaning of the entire sentence, doesn't it? 😛
That's the point, man.
And true virtual reality won't exist until we perfect bio-nanotechnology. And that's probably not happening for a while, yet. We'll all be old and stuff when Nintendo finally launches the Matrix.
War Lord wrote:http://kotaku.com/gaming/kotaku-magu/kotaku-magu-tretton-offers-to-buy-unsold-ps3s-for-1200-235204.phphttp://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/02/10
I just got my EGM last week and read this whole interview. The guy is a nut.
I've seen PS3's on shelves every time I go to Wal-Mart or Best Buy or wherever and it's been that way since the Holidays. I wish I had known about this so I could have quit my job.
This is way awsome dude!
After reading the first post, I must say that this is becoming a hilarious misadventure for Sony. :kitty:
This thread was from February. Please don't grave dig unless you have something meaningful to contribute.
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