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3D Platforming question

36 replies · 5,705 views · Started 02 June 2006

Okay, so I recently replayed Super Mario 64 on my trusty N64 (yeah, apparently I'm one of the few hardcore people around today who hasn't thrown his away) and I got into the mood for that type of game. So I've had a rummage around my room to see what type of games I had that were similar and was surprised at what I found.

For the N64...
Super Mario 64
Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo Tooie
Donkey Kong 64

For the NGC/PS2...
Super Mario Sunshine
Vexx
Jak & Daxter (the sequels don't count 'cause they turned it into a GTA-wannabe series after the first game)

...and what was I surprised about? How few of these types of games I had. I'm not just talking about standard 3D action-adventures. I've got tons of those. I mean games that aren't about realism and vehicles and guns and stuff.

I mean good old fashioned FUN platformers. Where you can double jump and kill enemies by jumping on their heads. With objectives like 'Collect 100 coins for a star', 'Shoot all the enemies for a banana' and 'Reach the top of this ridiculously high and ludicrously dangerous tower for a power cell'. With lead characters who have an end goal of rescuing the princess and beating the bad guy, who handily escapes for the sequels.

You know?

And, seeing as I've already beaten those games a whole bunch of times, I turn to you guys. Could/would you mind recommend some more games like what I done described so I can have something fun and exciting to look forward to throughout the working day?

I've tried, but sadly I find it very, very hard to do that. There must be some 3D platforming goodies out there I've missed, surely?

Let me look over what I have and I will get back to you with a list.

I am different from you...I have ALL of those games without all of the war games and shit.

The Ratchet & Clank series is absolutely out of this world. I've only played three, but I think I'll take the risk of generalizing three to encompass the previous two, ... and maybe even the fourth. It was Just That Fun.

For the PC, consider getting Heavy Metal FAKK2. Damn good platformer.

ctrl-alt-delete wrote:Let me look over what I have and I will get back to you with a list.

I am different from you...I have ALL of those games without all of the war games and shit.


Not that different. I hate war games as well. And sports games. And realistic driving games.

BH4 - I've already got Heavy Metal, and yeah, it is fun. Except when I got stuck due to a bug. 😞

So... Rocket: Robot on Wheels and the Ratchet & Clank series, you say? Right, I'll give 'em a try. Thanks guys.

Darth Marsden wrote:Not that different. I hate war games as well. And sports games. And realistic driving games.

BH4 - I've already got Heavy Metal, and yeah, it is fun. Except when I got stuck due to a bug. 😞

So... Rocket: Robot on Wheels and the Ratchet & Clank series, you say? Right, I'll give 'em a try. Thanks guys.

I apologize, I misinterpreted what you said in that first post.

Give me some time, I am still working on it. (My list.)

Darth Marsden wrote:(yeah, apparently I'm one of the few hardcore people around today who hasn't thrown his away)

:rofl: I still have my N64, AND my SNES. Don't feel left out.

Er...I don't know, do you count 3D sonic as platforming?

If so then:
Sonic adventure DX,

sonic Adventure 2 battle

they are both really good.

I've already got them. The whole Gamecube series (besides Sonic Riders) is currently resting on my shelf not being touched due to them my thinking they're not being as great as some people think. You are perfectly entitled to like them, and I have certainly had my moments with them, but they're more a lesson in patience then anything else, I feel.

And while technically they may be platformers, they're not the sort of games I'm after.

Bump!

Tried Ratchet & Clank... good fun, even if it does get a bit repetative collecting bolts all the time.

And how's that list coming, c-a-d?

um... what happens when you beat k-rool for the last time in dk64? as i can never time the very last punch against him properly when he turns invisible and stuff... i assum beating him as chunky kong in the boxing ring results in the end of the game.

Chunky Kong vs. King K. Rool (Last Match)

[Spoiler]K. Rool will turn invisible and continuously run into the ropes. To see K. Rool watch the shadow. Slam the switch to make Chunky pads appear. Do the Gorilla Gone move and you'll be able to see K. Rool and a Chunky barrel. Jump inside to turn huge. Now K. Rool will be on one side and you'll be on another. This is where timing is crucial. K. Rool will start to charge at you. Get ready to Primate Punch him. If your timing is right, you'll send that piece of scum back to the other side. Repeat the process and watch the funny ending. You beat the game!
Note: After you hit K. Rool two times he will turn invisible and then charge at you. Again, watch the shadow and time your punch.[/Spoiler]

Taken from my post in 'Greatest Games of all Time'...

Darth Marsden wrote:Conker's Bad Fur Day - I think the only times I've laughed harder at a game were with Sam & Max and Monkey Island, and even they never dared to go as low as this game. It may have been somewhat frustrating in places, but what other game has you pollenating a sunflower? Also - is the remake as good as/better then/worse then the original N64 game? Just curious.

Bump again. Feel free to warn me, mods.

So I've got the Ratchet and Clanks series, Robots, Vexx and Loony Tunes - Back in Action. They're not as good as, say, Mario 64, but they're similar and I'm getting plenty of enjoyment out of them regardless (Well, maybe not so much with Robots).

Still... can anyone recommend any more similar style games on the PS2 or GC?

And I'm still waiting on that list of yours, ctrl-alt-delete...

There's no need to warn you, it was a fair bump.

I don't really know of many 3D platformers to mention. There are those Castlevania games on PS2 I guess.

Dechipher wrote:I remember seeing that Darth, but you didn't list it up there soI wasn't sure.

Sorry, you've lost me. Remember seeing what?

Kirby64 was amazing, and pretty much every kirby game ever, for that matter. Kirby super star was good if you're gonna play SNES.

Believe me, I have tried, repeatedly, to go 2D again, but it's damn near impossible. Notable exceptions have been Duke Nukem: Manhatten Project (more fun then a candy floss beard) and Earthworm Jim (which is just Earthworm Jim!), but as a rule I have great difficulty going back a dimension.

Besides, name a 2D game where you can wall-jump. Besides the new Super Mario Bros.

Super Metroid, to answer the wall jump question.

3D platform games have definately gotten better. But I still feel like the 2D platformers tend to give better play value. It just seems like that style of play is inherently better suited for two dimentions. There are plenty of game types that work really well in 3D, but I don't think they're one of the better examples.

Darth Marsden wrote:Besides, name a 2D game where you can wall-jump. Besides the new Super Mario Bros.

Metroid 2
Metroid: Fusion
Metroid ZM
All Megaman games since MMX1
Tiny Toon Adventures (NES)
Run Saber (SNES)
N (PC)
Double Dragon III (NES)

There's a few.

Ah. Fair enough, Dechipher.

I guess I got the metaphorical shit kicked out of me with the wall-jumping question, didn't I?

While I grant you that 2D platforms are where the genre started and has some truly great games, I'm a 3D person and I love the sheer freedom that entails. I love the way you can climb up to the top of a tower and look out over an entire level. I love that you can rings rings around your opponents - literally. I love the new strategies that an extra dimension require.

So help me feed my addiction. Give me more games to play before I implode.

And I'm STILL waiting for that list of yours, Ctrl-Alt-Del.

I'm sure there are some "Spyro the Dragon" titles for those systems (I know PS1 as quite a few, and PS2 plays PS1 games...) Also if no ones mentioned it, there is Ape Escape.

just noticed your spoiler.... uh um i know about what you said and always get up-to the very last punch where he turns invisible but i always miss-time it and lose..... what happens when you do win?

I don't know, I haven't gotten that far. However, try this. Not sure if it'll work or not, but give it a go and let me know what happens.

[Spoiler]Chunky is the last Kong in the ring. He will be one to deliver the final knockout. As soon as the round starts, King K. Rool will turn invisible and start hurling himself around the ropes in the ring. Avoid the shadow on the floor. Slam the Chunky Switch in the center of the ring to make four Chunky Pads appear. Use one of the Chunky Pads to make yourself invisible. You will be able to see the King and a Chunky Barrel in the center of the ring. Jump in to become big. Chunky will appear by the turnbuckle. King K. Rool will charge. Hit him with a perfectly timed “Primate Punch” to send him up into the air across the ring.
The Chunky Pad that you used will be gone. Find another Chunky Pad and repeat the same process three more times.
When you appear by the turnbuckle again, he will be faster the second time.
The third time, he will be invisible. Watch the shadow on the floor to know when he is coming at Chunky.
The fourth time, he will be invisible and will move from side to side while coming at you. Once again, watch the shadow on the floor to know when to do a “Primate Punch”. If you can't time it right, just try "Primate Punching" repeatedly. Hopefully you'll get him.[/Spoiler]

EDIT: Spiro games on the PS1 don't really do anything for me, which is irritating. They just seem a bit... soul-less, if that makes sense. Ape Escape, on the other hand, is a series I've tried and an enjoying very much. Thanks for the suggestions though.

And I'm thinking that Ctrl-Alt-Del never had a list at all, the big bluffer...

Not true. That'd be the 'Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?' series of games. The Spyro games are fine for kids, but for someone older (and wiser(!)) they just don't cut it. Trust me, I know a quality game when I see (or, indeed, play) it.