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General Bitching

45 replies · 11,757 views · Started 28 May 2006

I have been contemplating disabling this forum for a month or two now and have finally decided to axe it.

It has a purpose, however when beefs from within GB spill to other forums that's when I have a problem and look beyond any use it may serve.

I feel that this is best for the community as a whole.

You have a problem with someone? Take it to a PM.

We will also be cracking down on flaming in other forums, as i believe there has been a certain amount of lenience in recent times.

I'll miss the fires, but all in all public resentment breeds further hostilities so as fun as it is ...for the best

I honestly think this is a bad idea, and will only result in more work for the moderators. People are going to bitch and flame anyways, and not having a place here to do this (or being chastised for doing so) will only breed resentment. Oh well.

You'd only need one rule.
Don't say anything to anyone that you wouldn't say to them if you were looking them straight in the eye.

Lol everytime GB gets a lot of forum-bitching-traffic it gets shut down until things end up back to normal, aka everyone bitching about gas prices and their boss 😞 sigh

Why not? The only thing I have to say about losing GB is if it weren't for GB and what it caused, would AGN be going through it's changes that are taking place right now?
Yeah, it was full of negativity but it did spawn a much needed overhaul. If people would just learn to use it right, there would really be no reason for axing it. It was a good place to let off some steam.

I agree. I enjoyed how there would be some topics that everyone would agree on enough so that nobody would flame each other, but would stick to the topic. There's nothing that makes someone happier than seeing that someone hates something that someone else hates too. 😛 Of course, the opposite is apparent where someone gets flamed for doing little at all. That's the part I didn't like. If these two parts could somehow be combined, it'd make for a very interesting forum where nobody would fear getting flamed themselves unless they agreed upon it when posting in the thread. (Flame someone, and you'd agree to be flamed in return, but if you don't flame someone, anyone who flames you gets warned, etc.) I've developed this idea out somewhere else. If anyone is interested, PM me, and I'll get you a copy of the thread.

GB didn't relieve us from flaming in other forums. People still did it there. They just did it more in GB. AGN has this notion that because you CAN flame in a particular place, you have to. Which isn't true.

here's another question:
can we still expect to see silent bans?

on-topic;
this wont solve anything. the mods needed to crack down a while ago, but since quite a few were inactive, it didn't happen.

good call. -_-

Gerudo wrote:here's another question:
can we still expect to see silent bans?

on-topic;
this wont solve anything. the mods needed to crack down a while ago, but since quite a few were inactive, it didn't happen.

good call. -_-

I don't see why the mods won't be cracking down now. The new mods will do their job as will the older mods.

that's not the point. i'm sure the new mods will do an excellent job.

if flaming was such a problem in the other forums, why wasn't it corrected before the problem(s) got out of hand, as it's said?

This is because of my waffle thread isn't it? Just kidding. It''s a shame that GB is going away. I always looked forward to seeing who or what people wanted to bitch about.

But I do think that eventually some flaming will start to leak into GD, GGD and ASWGL. I guess the mods will just have to pay even closer attention.

R.I.P. General Bitching

I think temporarily getting rid of GB is a good idea. Recently the feel of AGN has shifted quite a bit, but I think it has more to do with the fresh faces than the staff change.

GB was a good place to look at when you wanted a laugh or drama. It was rare of me to post in it though I will miss it

That sums up my views exactly. It'll come back when the forums are ready. :shrug:

I'm glad to see it gone. GB has been a trap for many an unwise-newbie It's true, as some people have said, that when the right topic was brought up, GB threads were something that brought people together. Most of the time, however, people just used it as a place to flame each other, which inevitably spilled over onto other areas and got people banned or simply turned people away from the community.

Well, in that case, I think it's about time I worked on getting myself served a freshly baked bancake. Guys, it's been a while, anyway. You know I love it.

DarkDragon wrote:Thrice before has GB been killed, and thrice before it has been resurrected. Give it time, it'll return.

How long ago did that happen? In three years I don't think I've ever seen it go away.

omg... this is like, the perfect oprotunity to make granite's idea for general bitching.. what was it again? "general fun"?

... ... You know what, screw it. I'm just going to copy and paste this already. This is the Rules thread from a proof-of-concept from somewhere else.

[center]-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Welcome to the Coliseum!
[/center]

Flaming is acceptable within this forum under certain conditions. These conditions rely on the type of topic the person wishes to create. Read these very carefully.

There are three types of topics here in The Coliseum. You must label which sort of topic it is either in the thread title or in your introductory post. Any unlabelled threads will be removed from the forum after the first reminder to label it properly.

[TOPIC] - General: A general type of topic. You may flame a subject, but you may not flame anything that has to do with people themselves. You may flame an inanimate object which may not retaliate. Topics include flaming a company, complaining about a bad day or unjust situation, and other things which others may sympathize with. You may speak the truth, but keep in mind that the person creating the thread is looking for sympathy rather than an antagonized situation.[center]NO FLAMING OTHER MEMBERS OR THEIR BELIEFS!
You may argue or debate about them, but any flaming without a valid reason will be discarded and the member warned.[/center]

[DUAL] - Duel: A fight between two or more members. Anything goes, but it must be maintained between those members and nobody else. If anyone flames anyone who is not in the dual, or if anyone engaged in the duel flames a spectator, they will be warned, and on the next occurrance have their rights to the forum revoked. Understood? Keep it to the selected members.

[FFA] - Free For All: No restrictions. Flame anyone, anything, anywhere. You generally won't be warned here, except for lying. Try to keep it to the truth, whatever you're arguing about.

Anyone found breaking the rules of any of these conditions will simply be tossed out of the forum and disallowed from returning. Once again, posting in this forum is a right, not a priviledge.

[center]-----------------------------------------------------------------------[/center]

An exact copy/paste from its functional location somewhere else. The idea is going over pretty well over there, though the audience isn't as old as AGN's. I know everyone likes drama, (Apparently. O_o' ) so that's what the third type would be for. The other forms of topics would act to "unite" people in a common interest; such as when people were flaming the RIAA, or ... somehow, ... when Archibaldo took over Granite's thread and transformed it into a topic about waffles. 😛

If flaming was the issue before, but people still want somewhere to let out steam, this might work a little bit better than GB, because it's more "structured." That doesn't mean it'll work though. The Coliseum experiment isn't all that old yet either, (A month, maybe.) So I'm still waiting for potential problems to show up.

It makes sense, but I would like to leave an option open to flame someone for being blatently and purposely stupid.

You've got rules dictating the structure of internet drama between acne-philliacs. Christ, what is this, a cyber-Laguna Beach?

I expect a lot of FFA's to be formed at AGN under such a guideline system, though it leaves the option open to people who just want to have their bitchings heard about something that doesn't involve another member. The Rude Drivers, topic, for example.

Britannianhero4 wrote:I expect a lot of FFA's to be formed at AGN under such a guideline system, though it leaves the option open to people who just want to have their bitchings heard about something that doesn't involve another member. The Rude Drivers, topic, for example.

General ranting ...Got a bone to pick with the world?
Note: all other forum rules apply!

; shrugg :

It'd be nice not to clog GD with topics of an irrate nature, but general is pretty all inclusive so it'll work there too ...either way the forums pressence makes truly no difference one way or another.

Eh. General Ranting, General Bitching, same thing. The thing is, the oldbies want to rule GB and say anything goes just so they can watch other people squirm, while other people want places to rant about subjects without getting flamed themselves, since they're not flaming people, but a subject that others can agree upon.

If you think that can go in GD though, and can flame that subject freely in GD as well, that'd pretty much solve that dilemma.