OK, so I played megaman X 1-3, and looked up the stories on the rest, so I knew what was up, right after I DL'd the rom for MMZ1 the first time. I had no flash card at the time, so I immediately sold off 6 GBA games to go purchase this one.
I was astounded. It was challenging, and fun. The story, especially its relation to the original X games, was sweet. I loved the lore, and how non-cheesy it was, even for capcom. And the translation was amazing! it puts MMBN games to shame, to see transaltions done this freaking well!
I loved every game in the series. They got progressively more and more difficult, which is amazing. I love how freaking tough 4 was. That 2 minute timer on the final boss? I had to abandon all defensive tactics and just fucking bash on him, hoping I didn't get hit.
It was intense.
This whole series... Was impressive. Amazing. Probobly one of my favorites, I love the pace of the game. It says 7 hours finish time, but I spent so long trying to beat craft the first time... It should be longer.
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and then you're all ready to see zero's amazing entrance into the atmosphere after the credit roll, you feel a little teary... but you know it's coming. Maybe he caught a piece of heat proof debris, or an escape pod in the last seconds, and viola! He'll be around for MMZ5.
BUT FUCKING NO. THEY HAD TO SHOW YOU THAT FUCKING PICTURE OF HIS MANGLED REMAINS SCATTERED ON THE GROUND.
YOU FUCKING BET I CRIED. FUCK YOU, CAPCOM. FUCK YOU.
A great series... but this end... is so goddamn conclusive. They didn't leave it open for later.
Maybe they just got sick of making GBA games. Hell, it was a great run.
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Hell, it was a great job. The aspect of the stronger your character is the lower your ranking is was great. I strived to get an S ranked rinal save in the first 3... I don't know if I could in the 4th.
These games were amazing... but I'll have trouble replaying them now that I know how it all ends. It's too bad.
But maybe they'll do something. It was so amazing that they did this from the MMX series, maybe that bit of X data hanging around... Maybe they'll do something sweet with that.
We'll see. Just thought I'd share how I felt about all this.
Could you use
[spoiler]Spoiler tags?[/spoiler]
what are spoiler tags? I've never seen em, I been gone a while.
Post the tags? Would it be [spoiler] zomg [/spoiler]
GFG, thanks man. I got it. :P
ha, a story of hate sprung from love
Just be happy it was a good game:shrug:
If they made another one it might of not been as good and so they wanted to end with a good game. Ofcourse its going to be conclusive, there is no reason to leave it open for later if they arent going to another game.
Yeah, but like this, it makes sure they can't really ever make another game, without some kind of super cheesy revival story. It just sucks, like, it pulls the happy out of the whole series.
you do know there's a (most likely) squel in the works, right? same art style, menus, and everything, only it stars two characters, which can turn into X and Zero. Megaman ZX (if that isn't a giveaway in itself, nothing is)
Hm... Damn. That could be a neat series.
Whered you get that info? Would I find it at gamestop, or is it not really that far along yet?
ONeilcool wrote:If they made another one it might of not been as good and so they wanted to end with a good game. Ofcourse its going to be conclusive, there is no reason to leave it open for later if they arent going to another game.
Tell that to Megaman 8, and Legends 2. Legends 2 especially left a big gaping hole in its ending (or so I've read, I haven't played it myself), but no sequel has been announced.
[spoiler]And hell, in terms of the X series, Zero was practically destroyed in X5, yet he came back as if he was brand-new in X6. Also, in his own ending in X6, he was supposedly put into a capsule for 100 years (and this is what spawned the Zero series, I believe), yet in X7, there he is, plain as day.[/spoiler]
Capcom's been known for leaving plot holes in their games, and if they want to make a Zero 5, they will.
The X6 Zero ending was an attempt to justify the transition to the Zero series IF they never made an X7. They did, so it just becomes a 'what-if' sort of ending. X5's ending was also suppossed to be the transition, but Capcom decided that the X series should continue and they thusly revived Zero yet again, as they always seem to do.
Besides: [spoiler]They destroyed X's body in Z2, didn't they? And Zero's original body in Z3. If they want Zero back, he'll be back.
Besides, Dr Wily (If he isn't Dr. Weil) may still want to keep Zero alive, like he did between X5 and X6.[/spoiler]
And at least it'd provide some decent closure if it is the end of the series.
wow, the whole damn thing.
[spoiler]They destroyed X's body a long time ago. It was destroyed before the series started, (Did that happen in one of the X games? I haven't played them in so long...) The X you were fighting was a clone of X, and you still encountered X's remaining data in Z1-3. His data made no appearance in 4, I think they kind of concluded his existance, but not perminantly. So maybe Zero's data will be found, and the two will make one SUPER REPLOID ZOMG.
But yeah. Actual X never existed in the MMZ series. It was just some clone thingus. It was one badass clone, though.
Now I want to play through the whole series again.
*goes to go flash his gba flashcard*
And on the weil thing... His whole not being able to die thing will probobly bring him back, in some light. and yeah, I thought he was wily since our first encounter with the man. He just seems like him, alot, and then his endgame speach in MMZ4 just puts alot together for the conclusion, too.[/spoiler]
And as a side note, does that megaman X collection for cube and PS2 include all of the X games?
Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Zero came back somehow. He's already been raised from the dead a zillion times, one more won't hurt.
And to be honest, I'm glad the little bastard died at the end of Z4. I've never much liked him.
punkonjunk1024 wrote:And as a side note, does that megaman X collection for cube and PS2 include all of the X games?
X1-X6, and Megaman Battle and Chase (which isn't an X series game, not that I'm complaining though). Presumably since X7 and X8 were separate PS2 games, they weren't included.
Thunderbird wrote:Tell that to Megaman 8, and Legends 2. Legends 2 especially left a big gaping hole in its ending (or so I've read, I haven't played it myself), but no sequel has been announced.
I have Legends 2, and yes, there is a big, gaping hole Capcom hasn't filled yet.
[spoiler]I believe Megaman came to a place called Elysium via a transforming robot (or whatever they're called). After defeating Mistress Sara at Elysium, the robot had to sacrifice himself to destroy a system...(The Carbon Re-initialization Program, I think) that would eliminate all of the humans from the face of the earth. This pretty much stranded Megaman on Elysium with no way to get back. At the end, Roll and Tron were working together to try and build a rocket powerful enough to get there and back...failing several times. It basically ends with Tron wondering if they'll ever be able to rescue him.[/spoiler]
The series abruptly ends there. I haven't played the game in a while, though...Might be a few flaws.
Megaman and X are two completely seperate entities, from what I understand. Unless one of the X games I haven't played (7 and 8) touch on that connection?
punkonjunk1024 wrote:Megaman and X are two completely seperate entities, from what I understand. Unless one of the X games I haven't played (7 and 8) touch on that connection?
There are no tie-ins from the X series to the original series, but one exists in the other direction. If you have the Anniversary Collection, complete Power Fighters with Bass to find out. Or just read what I'm putting in this spoiler tag 😛.
[spoiler]In Bass's ending in the Power Fighters, Wily and Bass do the usual arguing as to why Bass continues to oppose Wily. Wily makes a comment about how the robot he's building will blow Megaman and Bass out of the water as he did in the last game, but this time he shows Bass his plans for Zero.[/spoiler]
I find all the spoilers tags really funny because
1. I doubt anyone is actually not reading them
and
2. The thread doesnt make any sense unless you read them
Heh, I'm quoting a spoiler.
punkonjunk1024 wrote:wow, the whole damn thing.
[spoiler]They destroyed X's body a long time ago. It was destroyed before the series started, (Did that happen in one of the X games? I haven't played them in so long...) The X you were fighting was a clone of X, and you still encountered X's remaining data in Z1-3. His data made no appearance in 4, I think they kind of concluded his existance, but not perminantly. So maybe Zero's data will be found, and the two will make one SUPER REPLOID ZOMG.But yeah. Actual X never existed in the MMZ series. It was just some clone thingus. It was one badass clone, though.
Now I want to play through the whole series again.
*goes to go flash his gba flashcard*
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I admit I haven't played the game, but I have read the ending on www.mmhp.net and a script FAQ on Gamefaqs:
[spoiler]Doesn't Elpis destroy Original X's body in Z2? He has to do it set loose that Elf thing.
And no, there's no direct connections between X and MM yet, but Zero has been revealed as Dr. Wily's creation (Or at least his design). [/spoiler]
[spoiler]i've heard people say Zero owned the original Rockman cast, then X was born, and the rest is history. the way i see it, the battered remains of Zero's helmet in RMZ4 is nothing. Zero could have easily lost his helmet in that ending, so i think it's all just fanboy obsessing over nothing.[/spoiler]
go away, jerk. It was speculation.
Fan boy? In the light that I love the MM series, yes.
In the light that I hate other systems or something? No wtf?
Jesus. Can't a person like a game more than healthy once in a while?
wow, i cant believe you can be so retarded, poj.
only the die-hard fan-whatevers of the series are imitating Vader going "NNNOOOOOOOOOooooooo!!!!!"
you sit there bitching and moaning that the series is over, when there hasnt been (to my knowledge, although i've been without internet for a while) any official word on the status of the series.
try not taking my comments to heart and maybe you could understand the method to my words.
as far as "fanboys" go, i am one of them. i love the Rockman series (Classic, X, EXE, and Zero) to death, as well as i have RMAC, RMXC, EXE 3 and 4 on gba, and roms of Zero 1-4. you dont see me crying myself to sleep about the alleged ending to a series (maybe they'll end X sometime soon so they'll focus on another series).
i heard EXE ends after EXE 6, so i might be looking forward to another post of yours after that's all said and done.
You're absolutely correct. I have no right to my reaction because I am obviously overreacting, and if someone approaches something differently from someone else, they are automatically wrong.
In light of the MMBN series, god that translation is bad. Good games though. second one ruled hardcore.
It's also cute how you use the titles "rockman" and EXE. At least I'm not trying to LOOK diehard.
I doubt that is the end for Zero. It's become a running gag almost that Zero has a knack for being blown to pieces and then put back together. He's a robot after all. He just needs repairs.
Eh. It just sucks - Even if it's not the end, the MMZ series was getting progressively more difficult as the games went along. I was really hoping it'd keep going for quite a few games.