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I can't beleive someone could actually go back that far and revive a topic 2 years old . Shouldn't all the old one be frozzen so no one can revive them and annoy people. And what's rent a mod I know it's bad but just wondering.

it doesn't matter. Most people don't mind if it's maybe a month or two, but two years??!?!?! Well just try not to do it again

Many apologies if reviving this is not OK. However, I have had PM questions about it, and wanted to assure people that I am in fact still around (well, sort of - I offer no official guarantee of support). Believe me, I'd much rather revive one of my better quests - like AoL, which almost won QoTM once, or Proving Grounds).

Because someone asked above, all my quests, as always, are at:
http://www.geocities.com/pleitorian/plunder/zeldaclassic.html

I suppose I should check in at ZC central and see if anything came out after 1.92 (the latest version I have), eh? Would be pretty embarassing if that's way out of date. 😊

Sorry about the triple post upthread. Nobody ever said anything to me back then. In fact, I think at that time you were allowed to bump your quest every month or so for a while. Maybe not, it's been a long time, I can't remember what I had for breakfast, let alone what I was thinking 1999. 😊

Well, I for one am glad this thread is here. Old or not. I don't see the diference. If nothing else... maybe stuff already asked wont' have to be revived and relived.

Anyway, loving the game pL. I'm up to L4 and loving how this game kind of slows you down. No rushing through. You have to hunt ya know? Therefore... no hair loss yet...lol. Just moseying along....

No questions... (yet!).... just wanted to say hi to everyone and give props for the game.

Update: I was having a hard time finding the letter, but thanks to the thread (I did a search) I found a clue and got through 4. Now since then, I have been wandering trying to figure out how to get to 5. I found all the others with little effort. This one is a bugger though! I assume from hints I'll need the item I found in 4. And so that's what I've been playing with. Only no luck. And I've been through all the screens... (I've been making an overworld map). Most of the screens I still can't get to are ones you need a raft. I assume I will be getting that in 5? Anyway... need help in getting to L5 if someone would please?

There is a hint in the Overworld: "Level 5 can only be accessed through indirect means."

The best way - I've found - is from the Level 3 entrance, although it doesn't always work.

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You know what sucks? ---- I thought of that... and then got sidetracked before I tested it. Thus, I had totally forgotten until you said something. Man that bites! lol I mean, thank you for the directions... I really appreciate it. It would have just been nice to have remembered to try that. I could have had the satisfaction of getting through a question/puzzle/thing to figure.... without help! Urggggg! lololol

Thanks pL. 😊 I'm off to L5!!! Yaeee!


Update: URGGGGGGG!!!!!

Okay pL. I had to have missed something. Say, the ring? Because there is NO way I'm getting through L5 without it!! If I am suppose to. I might as well quit now! lol

Here is what I have... can you give me a heads up on whether I missed something and hints to get it? WSword, 1st boomerrang, 1st candle, arrow only (no bow), flute and bracelet, reg bombs. Ummm I think I have like 10 or 11 hearts. And doing 5. I haven't found ANY goodies yet in five. Lots of rooms with blocks to push... they just don't push for anything.. yet... I'm trying to work my way across the top of 5 right now. Actually, I've already gotten the heart and triforce from 5. Seems in this game... the goodies are a LOT harder to get than the triforce! lol

If I didn't miss the ring and I'm suppose to get through 5 w/o it... ohhh too hard for me man. I'm tired of starting all the time for hearts before I go back once I get killed. And now that I know the route I have to go... and know that those particular bad guys return each time even if I just sneak out for hearts... well... screw that! lolol Too dang hard! lolol Just too much going on in those rooms. The things themselves.. mayyyyybe... but those corners fireball throwers to boot! Dang man! You must be a mean player to be able to do that w/out a ring and so few hearts.

So... PLEEEEEASE tell me I can go back somewhere and get the ring. PLEASE tell me I did not just play half a game and will now have to cede not being good enough! lolol

The good news is that finishing Level 5 is one of the hardest fights in the game and if you got the Triforce from it, without the Blue Ring? That's pretty darn impressive. I am not sure I could do it the way you have done it, and I made the quest!! Anyway it sounds like you have already done the hardest part, if you did that without buying any keys!!

Are you trying to go left after the Darknuts due north of start over and over? If you completed L5 I don't think you need to do that any more, unless you missed a key. It's meant to only be done ONCE! Because it is very, very hard. And expensive.

You do have to play SOME of Level 5 without the Blue Ring, but once you find the Raft, you can quit Level 5 for a while and move on to another dungeon which has a Heart Container, the Blue Ring, and the Magic Sword. This is a VERY well hidden mini dungeon in the Overworld. The Bow is in Level 5 as well, and is one of the hardest items to find if you miss it. It is 2N, 2E of the entrance. The raft is in the room where the "eye" is located. The path to get there: N, N, N, N, E (note you can just walk BY the darknuts without killing any!), E, E, S, W, Take Stairs (you need to have full health to kill the Zols -- this may be what is confusing you), S, E. And if instead of taking the stairs you go south, you find the Bow. There is also a Magic Boomerang... somewhere, but you can find it in a later dungeon as well (I think - fuzzy memories remember?).

Other than that I don't know what to say. That is the EASIER path at the Darknut room in Level 5 and if you got to the end, you have gone that way before... I would not be mean enough to make you kill those while you are still ringless more than once or twice!!

Your item list looks complete so far, except for L5. L1 is the Arrow, L2 is only the Candle, L3 is only the Bracelet and L4 is only the whistle.

Glad you found the heart in Lvl 5. That was sneaky of me, wasn't it? 😊

Anyway: follow my directions, get the raft. Bring a red potion: first use for the Lanmolas, it is the ONLY room that should give you much trouble. Second use if needed is to kill the Zols in the room with the stairs to the top.

Once you have the raft, you will need to find the secret dungeon, where you will pick up the Ring and Sword (the 12th heart is there, in the northwest corner). These will make your job IMMENSELY easier. Don't give up, you are so close to where the quest becomes... huge!

Post again if you want a better hint. There is no overhead map in TLJ -- this is because of the way the Overworld secrets work (you'd see the missing screens), plus I thought it would be cool to force people to draw maps and really think about the quest. PS: when you find the huge 8x8 cave and go through it and ultimately reach the 2nd overworld, go one or two screens east, push the rock, and use the three stair warp provided. You will thank me... a lot. It is exactly like the path you found behind Level 9 in AoL. Like I said above, I do not delight in making people do hard things over and over again. They do them once, they accomplish them, and then they are -- generally speaking -- rewarded. As long as they did them right, that is. 😊

Anyway, to help you find that dungeon -- I am pretty sure that, except for Death Mountain, which is in the northwest region (yes this game has a mazelike Death Mountain cave system too, but a more primitive one, and it's in Dungeon form) you can walk/raft/3stairwarp/etc to every screen in the First Overworld, as long as you have the proper items. The second overworld has some subterranean caves connecting different points, but you still need to finish L6 (and optionally L7) before attempting that.

Anyway: find the raft, draw a map, and you will be all set!

ETA: Find level 5 map here

Well, due to your excellent help! lol... I've all but finished 5. I still need to get the boomerang though. Thanks for the map. I was thinking another room.

I've been wandering trying out my new raft. All those places I came across while I was making my map? Well, of course now I see they were ladder areas! urgggggg!

I found the heart in the water cave near L1. I almost thought that might be the dungeon you spoke of for the ring/sword. But couldn't open it up with anything. I also found 6, but want to wait for the ring...lol. I need my hair ya know...lololol The raft area up on top of the map just took me from one screen over to the right to another. And... thats all the rafting I've found so far. 😞

So.. question without giving away too much. Is the raft dock to the ring visible or do I have to call it up?

And maybe at least give me the map locale? As in ... NW, SW, NE, or SE or Middle part of this overworld? So I could at least be in the vicinity...lol.

I also sure hope you were right about L5 being one of the hardest! Man!!!! lol This game really requires skill doesn't it? L1-4 gave one a sense of confidence and then WHAM! L5 kicks your butt! lololol

Speaking on that... again... thanks for re-upping MY hearts, as in my confidence and encouragement to continue. I guess you guys don't just give hints huh? lol You're also the cheering section! Thanks pL

OK, well, you don't actually raft TO the dungeon with the Blue Ring, you raft IN it!!

Without the Raft, you cannot reach the Blue Ring once in the dungeon.

It is in a one-screen graveyard, on the top row of screens.

Hint: if you find the Armos, you are very close...

Okay, I did check around that missing screen... just forgot to look for walkthroughs I guess. :shakeno: But, now I've been there done that! VERY cool way to do those items by the by.... And once again. MAN!!! Couldn't you make those snakey things stay gone once they're killed?! lol

But... alas... as much as I tried with my arsenal I couldn't figure out how to get across that water. But, instead of asking and then waiting... I'm just going to buy the darn thing. lol Nothing on TV tonight so I'm having a playathon!

Anyway, I would love to know what the trigger was ... or where the steps might have been whatever it was to get over there. Just for my own knowledge. If you don't want to spoil it for others you can pm me. I just want to know what I missed ya know? lol

So.. I'm off to buy the thing.. .and then onto level 6!

Thanks for the area to look in for the dungeon. I probably would have eventually found it... since I knew there was an unvisited screen there...But oh what a time saver...lol. Thanks

Oh! And that 4 grouping rock stair thing on the bottom row of the overworld... MAN I cursed you! :sly: lololol Was your ears burning??? lol Actually it was days ago I just keep forgeting to give you a hard time about it. 😉

The water past the blue ring? Is just like Level 5. Blow the whistle to cross.

The water at the top of that dungeon requires the Ladder (found in Level 6) to cross.

I've just started playing the quest through again so that I can stay sort of caught up to you. So far I have finished Level 5 -- with the white sword and no ring, mind you -- and 10 hearts (11 after finishing). My current time is 2:13:06, with 12 deaths to my credit, mostly in the early levels. Ironically, I died about once in each of levels 1, 2, 3, and 4, and several more times by overworld Lynels/etc. when I was weak, but I did NOT die at all in level 5 (granted, I did use a potion or two), so I am having a hard time understanding what was tough about level 5!! 😊

To beat that Darknut room, I walked in, immediately lit my candle, spun right, and went through the right hand door with a key. Then I came back from that way and entered the room, immediately lit the candle again, and jumped into the fray. Four to six well placed bombs cleaned up most of the darknuts (you wait for them to cluster, moving toward you, but then face AWAY from them and drop a bomb, which they walk right into). The last two beat me up a little, but I finished the room with about half my life meter intact. And I suck at Zelda... which is why my quests are so playable. If I can beat 'em, anyone can, with enough effort.

Potions are a mere 1 screen east of Start, btw, just like in the original LOZ. If you look carefully, some screens may be familiar (e.g. Level 1 entrance) and that is because the first overworld was built by "modifying" the original Nintendo LOZ quest. The original concept was just to change the passageways and then as I learned stuff I got a little out of control! Heh.

Bomb the darknuts? I was trying to sword fight them... uh!
And usually, I don't have a too hard a time with them. But when you're getting beat up with fireballs just as your getting ready to move... urggggg!

anyway,... glad YOU had no trouble with that level...lol I would have had a lot less if the rooms I went through stayed dead, or at least would let me just leave one thing... lol. Guess I'm giving away how I get through stuff huh? hehehehee

That's cool though that you're playing again. Refresh yourself...😊

As to the ring dungeon. I've blowed that whistle till I'm out of breath!@! If thats what it was (my first thing I tried) then I must have a bug or something because I tried it more than once. Just in case the trigger tile was like only one and in a certain place. So... maybe after you play through that dungeon you'll get back to me? Make sure it's how you remembered?

Oh and about that ladder. That body of water was too wide for a ladder. It was like 2 or 3 tiles wide? Unless your talking about water in one of the two rooms I have left in that dungeon. In which case. I do need to do 6 first. From the way you talked in another post --- I could get the ring after 5. So, that's what I went to do. lol I WANTED that ring! lol

Well, have fun playing it again. And let me know if yours works (whistle) across the 3rd room from the end (triforce).

Third room from the triforce? The blue ring is in the triforceless, non-level dungeon in the northern graveyard, as follows:

Entrance room.
Go up one screen; Aquamentus and statues.
Go up one screen; dark room with Gibdo and Like Like.
Go right one screen; Mandhandla flying over water.
Use raft to cross water once Manhandla is killed. Raft is in Level 5 -- make sure you have it!
Go right one screen. Shop has Blue Ring $255 and Bait $60 and some other item I cannot remember.
Go right one screen; room with Wizzrobes and stairway to a single small heart.
Go up one screen. Use whistle to cross water. Can be blown on any tile.
Go up one screen. Traps in room. A "puzzle" theme.
Go left one room. Magic Sword is there. You need 12 hearts; I had 13 when I picked it up.

Please upload a photo to the web of the screen giving you problems if this doesn't help. If I don't have an exact location, I can't give perfect advice.

pLeitorian wrote:Third room from the triforce? The blue ring is in the triforceless, non-level dungeon in the northern graveyard

OK, so you mean the very top right of the dungeon with the Blue Ring. If you have the Magic Sword, you have the important items from that dungeon for now.

I looked at those rooms in Zquest, and saw no bushes. There should, instead, be two concentric squares of water/lava, which can be traversed in the center with the Ladder. However, two things come to mind: one, I cannot see into my passworded file so maybe I changed it a little bit, and two, the item is the Mirror Shield (in the unpassworded one) and you don't actually NEED that to finish this quest. There are actually about four Mirror Shields in the game, because I originally thought Like Likes could eat them (they can't).

Keep in mind that TLJ uses "raft paths" and you have to steer your raft. This is especially important in Level 9 (if you don't steer, you can't finish the level). So once you find the Lens in Level 9, you should use it whenever you raft, so you can see the paths.

By the "lower left dungeon," do you mean a huge, mazelike cave? The very bottom left screen of the entire overworld is, indeed, a huge cave -- to a brand new overworld. When you finish that, please go one or two screens to the right, and then use the block to open up stairs back to start (open up ALL the paths first, trust me, it's worth the effort). I don't want you to get mad having to do that big cave twice!!

I am where you are, I just finished Level 7.

Level 8 is in the bush next to the water, where the bushes are arranged in a big "8" pattern. This is in the southwest area as well, but instead of going toward the big cave, you go southeastward, among the Lynels.

pLeitorian wrote:I looked at those rooms in Zquest, and saw no bushes. There should, instead, be two concentric squares of water/lava, which can be traversed in the center with the Ladder. However, two things come to mind: one, I cannot see into my passworded file so maybe I changed it a little bit, and two, the item is the Mirror Shield

OK, I have mapped out the raft paths. In the cave, you do not need to change your raft's direction.

The proper path is as follows: once you cross the water/lava where you blow the Whistle, find the screen with two docks (you can walk up one screen in the right portion, to the top right screen, where you can see stairs you cannot reach). At the docks:

Take the left dock;
Ride to four-way dock.
Take the left dock;
Ride to another four-way dock with a diagonal obstruction.
Take the bottom dock;
Raft to island with block in it.
Use ladder to cross from top island to bottom island.
Take dock at right;
Raft to a three way dock.
Take the top dock;
Raft back to other side dock with diagonal obstruction.
Take the top dock;
Ride to a sort-of four way dock (one dock is inaccessible).
Take the middle dock;
Ride to small bottom island.
Use ladder to cross to small top island.
Take top dock.
Take stairs here; they go to left row of map where you have not been.
Go north to exit (bring a potion, big Gleeok fight there!).

I will attempt to make a map out of my file as well. Good luck!

Update: I have placed a map of the cave's raft system (UPDATE: and maps of the Lost Lake and Lost Hills) at [EMAIL=http://www.geocities.com/pleitorian/plunder/raft.html]http://www.geocities.com/pleitorian/plunder/raft.html[/EMAIL]

Me again... needing help. EVER! :heart:

I need to find a wallet. I found the dungeon that asked for more money (than I can hold). But in all my searching... nothing yet. Help?

Also want to give pL a shout out for this MASSIVE, butt kicking game! Butt kicking as in.. the player gets to smash and crash A LOT! IF anyone likes to kill stuff ... this is THE game to play! But NOT for the player who wants to speed through... for the title... "Longest Journey"? Well, it ain't lyin' ....😉

Small wallet: in 2nd overworld... big western graveyard.

Large wallet: in 2nd overworld... bomb the cave behind the Gleeok a little north and east of the cave that links the two overworlds. He'll tell you which dungeon it's in (you probably have found this already, with an entry fee of $300).

Update: my quest times (note that I added an extra shortcut to the Level 9 entrance in my version -- so I can keep going back to Level 9 and updating this list. There may or may not be a warp to the Level 9 entrance... but I'm not telling... because I don't remember! In the meantime, once you get to Level 9, I suggest playing it out as much as you can.)

With 15 deaths, and no cheating, I managed the following:
4:52:28 - had small wallet
5:19:25 - had 23 Heart Containers
5:35:35 - had Large Wallet
6:10:40 - had mapped Lost Lake and Lost Hills by hand and finished all money minidungeons in Second Overworld
6:38:58 - had Wand
7:49:51 - had reached Level 9 and obtained the Silver Arrow

Well, ain't you just somethin' ? 😉

Again... you KNOW where stuff is!!!!!! It's just not fair for us to compare how long it takes us and how long it takes you! NO fair!!!! lolololololololol

Okay... I've spent the day finishing my mapping of Lost Lake, OW's etc. Then was off to get the wand. But because of being so thourough and needing so many bombs to make sure nothing was left undone... it took me 2 or 3 trips. Got it though and then went to L8. Done and Done. I've spent the last little bit just trying to find the Master Sword (3 eyed thing). Finally figured out that blank screen. Urggg. If I had just been neater with my map, and drawn it a bit bigger so I could SEE..lol.. I might have found it earlier.

Anyway, I've spent the last hour or so trying my best to figure out that dungeon. I got the money... but no Sword and I've bombed all the walls? (I remember the hint to use a bomb) I even bombed the money thing under the floor! I mean.. at this point... why not? lol The only walls I haven't tried or the left and upper wall. I can't get to them from pushing blocks and when I emerge from the money stairs it always puts me back on the right side. So.. I give up. Can you help me find it? Pleeeease!

Though this has been a GREAT game... Its also been a LONG (TLJ) one! lol And I am about ready to get to 9 and kill that bugger...:evil: lol

Hopefully you'll be on soon tonight. I would LOVE to be able to announce my finishing by tomorrow!

On a lighter side.. hope you're having a GREAT weekend!

OK, assuming you found the Master Sword dungeon (is it a short, vertical one? If not, you're in the wrong dungeon: bombing was for the secret money area behind the White Sword, but there's no **Master** Sword there. There might have been a shop in the 2nd overworld with the Master Sword for $900, I forget if it was taken out in the update...)...

You need to use the trick from Level 9 in Adventure of Link: use the Wand and Magic Book to burn the tree in the center of the room you'll eventually come to.

And considering I'm playing an old uncorrected version where you can't even get the Red Ring, I thought my total finishing time earlier today of 9:31:16 was pretty good. 😊

Okay... the dungeon I'm in that I 'think' is the one the clues and you pointed me to... is a short, vertical 4 or 5 room thing. At the end room. There is a lone bush that I had to bounce a wand shot into off an enemy. ( I guess thats what you meant by the ref. to AoL?) Anyway... Under the bush was money. There are blocks and the bush, that keep me from getting to the left and upper walls of that room. Blocks wont move. Bush opens to stairs and when I emerge... it puts me back on the right side of the room. Therefore... IF this is the right dungeon... then I can't figure HOW to get to another room...

The locale is 1st OW, the screen directly above the heart you raft to screen, which is beside of the L1 screen.

If there is a shop for the master sword... I'ld pay! lol.

I've took time to watch a movie and am bumbed that I still can't move on now. 😞 I might go ahead and start on L9. Surely the Master Sword isn't THAT important to get me started mapping it? lol I'm ready to get down and dirty ya know? Kick some Ganon butt! (evil laughter) But I will check back first thing tomorrow ( at least right before I get to play again).

And considering I'm playing an old uncorrected version where you can't even get the Red Ring, I thought my total finishing time earlier today of 9:31:16 was pretty good. 😊

You have the right dungeon, and you're going to kick yourself because you were so close to figuring it out: you do burn the bush. Then you walk halfway up into the tiles above you and walk "across" the stairs, only *half* on top of them. I'm not sure if I'm explaining it right: it's when you have a rock tile above you, Link still appears half on top of it, you know? Just push yourself up into the top blocks first and you should be able to walk across. I don't know what player you're using, but this can be done in the 1.84 and 1.90 players. Either way, it's not essential to completing the quest.

The original sword shop was either Magic Sword or Master Sword for $900 but I forget which.

The Red Ring is in Level 9, in the right-hand column of rooms; you must kill three Patra at once to get it. If the stairs open up behind some blocks, you have the old, uncorrected version. I did release a minor correction which took care of this and some other more minor bugs, but I'm not sure if the Quest DB ever got the right one. With the Master Sword, the Red Ring is a little less important, as the tough rooms are only half as long and will only drain half as much of your hearts as they did to me (I was playing Blue Ring, Magic Sword - eek! Now that IS hard).

Don't worry about your time. I was more going for "if it takes me 10 hours to play it, don't worry if it takes you 50" -- I was trying to be encouraging.

Anyway, this should get you going for now. Good luck... and remember to save a potion for the last room. And I don't mean the one with Ganon.....

ETA: I just played through for it, and the Master Sword costs $750. To help, you can find $200 in the tunnel going to Level 7 (by the way, you reach that cave above Level 7 with the Whistle -- but it's a bit buggy and not really important, just a hint to the Master Sword: like, if you found the Door Repair guy one screen north of the Master Sword, he says "cave floor is about to collapse" ... because the dungeon is underneath his cave!)

Well, one thing you've always been is encouraging pL. And Patient! And God love you for it! :king: If not... I wouldn't still be playing.

And... I almost had another hissy last night and said screw it. lol. But I recognized it was me... not the game. Even went and download Unoffical Ninth and the 1.6 verison. Was just going to start another....lol. I remember you said it was a bit easier. And I would really like to build my confindence back up by being able to play a game that I didn't need to stop and ask a question twice a day! lol But, I think it had to do more with me just having a bad day yesterday.. than anything.:uhoh: I've got one of "those" mothers that hasn't aged well. Bless her heart.

Anyway, I did go ahead to 9 w/o the sword. And the rooms were not too bad... again... it was the figuring and whatnot part and the day had me ---- well, weakened... we'll say. lol . I was just so.... I don't know... feeling so undeserving of being there I guess. I had had to have so much help. And here I was... stuck again. Just frustrated with myself when one 'thinks' they've tried everything and yet like you said... then have to kick their self in the butt when they see how simple it was. I spent hours going in and out (in and out in and out) getting those stupid S Bombs...lol. Trying to find more rooms. I've always hated that they only sell one at a time...lol. Anyway...I never did keep up with which ones I bombed (like I said... I was in a state) so I'll have to start afresh.

I'm thinking my problem (other than a bad day) might be I've got Zeldaitis too...lol. Just TOO much playing. This is my third game in a row with no breaks. Well, that and my issues with giving up too soon... :redface: I need to work on that personality flaw.

Anywho... today is a new day. The sun is shining and I am determined to get out from underneath this funk! I am not going to beat myself up about the block thing... I'm just going to go and get that sword. Then... I'm going to go visit some people (get out in the world), do some errands. I'm going to get my smile back. :female: Then when I feel I'm perky again... I'll tackle 9. Don't give me any hints yet.........I am determined to at least do this one on my own...for a change...lol. Even if it takes me days!

You have a glorious Sunday. I hope to be announcing Monday that I am "done and done". If not though, I'm not going to sweat it.... lol.

Oh, and I'll let you know about the ring thing once I find it. Maybe that will tell us which version I've been playing...lol.

Happy Trails..

Oh...PS... I had a non related question. When a person makes these quests... do they "have'' to use Zelda music in the OW because of copyrights or something? I had a thought that wouldn't it be nice to have something else playing where you spend the most time (in the OW). And even maybe switching up for areas. Like beach music if your along the water, Something like "Born to be Wild" in the dessert areas... that kind of thing. When I go into a dungeon with good music... it just seems to help. Adjusts my mood ya know? I'm into music. And I LOVED the dungeon where you put in a bit of "The Wall". And.. the end song? Wouldn't it be cool to have "Happy Trails" ? lol

Talk to you later...

I'll give you one bit of advice: when you enter Level 9, from the Triforce Guard room, the Silver Arrow is found if you go straight up; everything else (except possibly the compass) is down the paths to the left. That should save you some incredibly frustrating bombing. Also, there is a superbomb and bomb shop somewhere in Level 9.

As far as music, I think it's just tradition. In "Adventure of Link," I almost used the dungeon and overworld music exclusively but thought that would get boring. I don't know how to change the ending music; however, I know how to change the Ganon music. And if I ever finish the Proving Grounds quest, I have already selected the Ganon theme. I feel it's one of the best ones out there... I took a certain part of a certain song (I'm not telling!!) which -- I think, anyway -- captures the mood perfectly. If I ever stop playing "Kingdom of Loathing" for a few days, maybe I'll get to finishing that. I need to make it into a 2.10 quest now anyway but I'm not sure if a converter will work...

Switching music also changes maps -- people have "boss music" in dungeons, but the way the map works kind of changes and I just don't like how that looks.

1st: Done and Done! I'll tell more in a pm... don't want to ruin it for others....

Switching music also changes maps -- people have "boss music" in dungeons, but the way the map works kind of changes and I just don't like how that looks.

Hello,

I've been reading the messages and I'm still a little confused on level 5. I can't follow the directions given, such as going N, N, N, N, E, etc.

I can't seem to understand about trying to go west of the room with the guy you have to whistle to make into 3 smaller pieces and then kill, as no matter what I do, can't go that way. I can't follow the instructions I mentioned in the previous paragraph because going north leads to a big blood pool between the entrance, and the map at the top. No way to get across. Otherwise, the only rooms I can seem to get into are the 3 to the right of the entrance room and 2 above it. Then, in that right column, I can also go up 2 more rooms, and the 2 rooms to the right of that, but for the top 2 rooms, I can only get under the bottom row of blocks, and not in between them to cut across the locked doors. I have gathered 3 keys thus far, but that's it.

What am I missing?

Thanks.

Ah, but you need to blow the whistle to cross that big pool.

And when you go along the right, there are walls that can be bombed (in the room with the mummies).

pLeitorian wrote:Ah, but you need to blow the whistle to cross that big pool.

And when you go along the right, there are walls that can be bombed (in the room with the mummies).

Ah, thanks...but now I have a different issue. I can't for the life of me find the blue ring dungeon. There is one dungeon that you start out going north twice, then east for a while, needing a raft before you go south, which requires a ladder, but found nothing there. As for the lake where the raft goes across the top, if you go east 1 screen, there is an entrace way that can't be accessed with 8 of the guys when you touch them, they move, and are never worth coins...is there a way to get in that entranceway? And is that the blue ring dungeon? I tried to start level 6, but that's even worse than 5 without the ring. Oh, how much that blue ring would mean....

Flanker wrote:Ah, thanks...but now I have a different issue. I can't for the life of me find the blue ring dungeon. There is one dungeon that you start out going north twice, then east for a while, needing a raft before you go south, which requires a ladder, but found nothing there. As for the lake where the raft goes across the top, if you go east 1 screen, there is an entrace way that can't be accessed with 8 of the guys when you touch them, they move, and are never worth coins...is there a way to get in that entranceway? And is that the blue ring dungeon? I tried to start level 6, but that's even worse than 5 without the ring. Oh, how much that blue ring would mean....

Oh, and by the way, I did find a bug in the quest earlier. When you get the power bracelet, you can push the rocks. Well, there is a rock that you push across the bottom row that takes you to 3 secret passages. There is another rock if you go from the starting screen North, West, North, and west a few times (I think), where you would go South to enter the grave yards, go north instead. There is a rock you push to open up a passage to the Northwest. Well, if you take the secret passage first before you push that rock on the west side, go to the passage that takes you west of the river and into the NW territory, go all the way to the top, and as far left as you can, leading to a staircase going down that you can't see going up, and then go down again, and down once more, you get stuck/wedged in that block that would be removed if you push the rock on the west side first. I hope I explained it enough for you to understand it. You end up having to quit and continue at the starting screen again.