So....

[Majora]

What's the current status on NeoFirst? Just curious :)

[_L_]

I'll get back to working on it once 2.5 is out. Then hopefully it'll be done before 3.0.

[ShadowTiger]

I've been learning the hard way, ... and often, ... ... that my custom boss and wall tiles suck. ;_; XD *Returns to his vat of emo ice cream for solace*

I'm STILL assembling L2's cave/dungeon combo walls, similar to Mr. Z's. I have NO BLOODY IDEA how the HELL he did those to make them work. I'm also designing a set of walls for the elaborate and beautiful Level 3. It will have a light and dark set, running parallel to each other. One will be destroyed and ruined, yet still beautiful, while the other will be very well designed, yet horrifically awe-inspiring (In the bad way; the evil, horrific way.) menacing, yet similar enough to the Light walls to BE the light walls.

Not going so well. > <. If anyone has any designs for them they can draw up in Paint or something, that would be so very helpful. =/ I can sprite them rather easily, but I have no conception of WHAT TO SPRITE, y'know? :p

[Petoe]

Done before 3.0 is out? Oh man, I thought this quest was supposed to be released with 2.5.

Well good luck to ya with this project, it is a very important one for the whole ZC community.

[The_Amaster]

Yeah, I'm sorry, but I thought the whole point of NeoFirst was to show off 2.5's new features. And when you say 3.0 I'm assuming the devs have a plan to release 3.0 within, at the very max, a year after 2.5, or else you wouldnt say that.

[Majora]

3.0? Wow... I thought it WOULD be by 2.5 (or .6) but 2.5 comes first.

If I can offer my services in any way, let me know (I personally want to actually work on NeoFirst, I guess you could say "part of the (project) team"

[ShadowTiger]

To say that NeoFirst MUST come out with a whole number release (2.5, 3.0, etc.) is like saying that a starving man MUST wait to have a bucket of chicken assembled for him rather than eating one chicken leg from said bucket as it's stocked in there. I'm sure you'd all rather have a complete NeoFirst rather than a quest slapped together to be released to the public. Besides, public builds won't be withheld. O.o' They'll still have whatever tips and tricks NeoFirst will use as they'll always be unpassworded. It'll just be incremental (Similar to the current state of the builds.) until a final release.

[Petoe]

ST, I know that Neofirst is supposed to be a full, playable custom quest with dungeons and a final boss etc. But its main purpose is still to be a kind of tutorial to show off the new features and how they are used am I right?

Maybe you haven't noticed that there's a horrible lack of tutorials in the world of ZC at the moment. Developers add all these new features but no one cares to explain how they work. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is pissed at the fact there are no FAQs/Tutorials for the new features of ZC. And therefore I really think you guys should release NeoFirst with ZC 2.5 even if it's not finished... unless someone is secretely working on a super awesome ZC guide that people are unaware of...

[Shoelace]

I agree with you Petoe about the lack of tutorials around. I don't know half the new features that are on ZC anymore. That is why I was trying to get a tutorial forum at PureZC as it is needed. Neofirst was supposed to be a tutorial quest but it just turned into something bigger. It is just the nature of the beast. For example, I thought it was going to be released at the end of August which is why I made the level so quick, 2-3 weeks something like that. I personally am very disappointed in the level I made for Neofirst as I could have done way better. It was just I thought level 2 was going to be made immediately after level 1. But 9 months later it still isn't.

But I do understand that it has taken a different direction. Jman did want this to be a tutorial quest that would be released with the 2.5. However, it just got bigger and bigger. Of course the quest will be better as a result, however, it just won't be out anytime close to the release of 2.5.

[Nicholas Steel]

after its release someone could write documentation explaining how everything was done in LI... so we have a tutorial with sample work...