ha, they dont make hard games anymore. anyone who says any game for the xbox or PS2 is smoking crack, and not a good gamer. The old school games are way harder than any new gen game. Try Hylide for the NES you will commit suicide. Oh and then theres the original Battle Toads for nes, the stage where you are on that flying thing. It totally sucks. One more for ya, the original Track and Field, your fingers and forearms will be on fire after you play that ridiculous game (ABABABABABABABABABABABABABABA.............aghhh!! !! if you have played this you know what i mean)