The Dimentio and Anarchy Show

[Anarchy_Balsac]

What the heck is Freeware Rockman? Google doesn't seem to know...

Other than Mega Maker, there is no one program or method, Unlimited was made in Game Maker, which is the most common way other than rom-hacking, but there are indeed a LOT of Freeware Maga Man games, Day in the Limelight 1 & 2, Revolution, Rock Force, Super Fighting Robot, 2.5D and more.

Though, a quick search for Mega Man Game Maker DID reveal what I already suspected, that there indeed is Mega Man Canned Software:



And the comments reveal that there were others predating this (though supposedly not as good)

[mrz84]

I'd actually like to know this as well as my google search seemd fruitless after going down about 100 pages of almost nothing except emulation/romhacking bs with a spattering of tumblr every now and then before I got bored.

[James24]

I can guarantee you Anarchy that this political problem will follow you no matter where you go. Megaman or Zelda or whatever other game you make. There is no escape.

Difficulty is a political problem that has existed ever since the first games were made. And the simple reality is that most players do not like hard difficulty because they get their asses handed to them. If you bring your Type B culture to Megaman, you're going to face the same 0-star ratings for being too hard and not enough focus on graphics etc... It might not be Dimentio in that case, but there will be some other type A player there who will criticize it for sure.

I played Megaman 3 (aka Rockman 3) a while back and there were energy canisters that were put in for precisely this reason - to make it easier for those who would complain. Game is playable without using a single energy canister but its really, really hard. Politics have common threads wherever you go.

[Anarchy_Balsac]

I can guarantee you Anarchy that this political problem will follow you no matter where you go. Megaman or Zelda or whatever other game you make. There is no escape.

Difficulty is a political problem that has existed ever since the first games were made. And the simple reality is that most players do not like hard difficulty because they get their asses handed to them. If you bring your Type B culture to Megaman, you're going to face the same 0-star ratings for being too hard and not enough focus on graphics etc... It might not be Dimentio in that case, but there will be some other type A player there who will criticize it for sure.

I played Megaman 3 (aka Rockman 3) a while back and there were energy canisters that were put in for precisely this reason - to make it easier for those who would complain. Game is playable without using a single energy canister but its really, really hard. Politics have common threads wherever you go.

Believe it or not, in the Mega Man community, it ISN'T. While not all of the freeware mega man games are insanely tough, enough are that it shouldn't be a problem. Revolution and Day in the LimeLight 2 are particularly known for it, and those two are well liked.
@ZoriaRPG Touche, this probably should be split @ChrisMiller
@Gleeok and Zoria, Game Maker is FAR superior to the Platformer Starter Kit I built the Marauder Shields Video Game on, so meh. Maybe it ain't the best, but it's damned good enough for me. Hell, programming custom bosses in ZC is WAY harder than doing it in C/C#/C++, because you have to program AROUND a pre-existing AI.

[Gleeok]

I vote that James24 is put in charge of overseeing all senior gameplay jobs at Square Enix. Besides amazing programming and art content most of their newer games in the last decade are fucking bore-fests.


Also, are all those Mega Man Enigines Game-Maker? Because that majorly sucks.

[ZoriaRPG]

I vote that James24 is put in charge of overseeing all senior gameplay jobs at Square Enix. Besides amazing programming and art content most of their newer games in the last decade are fucking bore-fests.


Also, are all those Mega Man Enigines Game-Maker? Because that majorly sucks.

The one that I've seen is GM, aye; and I hate GM. It has a script engine that's likely 1/10 as efficient as ZASM.

Why not try @Saffith 's Rockman script set for ZC?

P.S. Weren't you just bitching about thread derails @Anarchy_Balsac ? It'dbe more logical IMO, to discuss Rockman stuff in a normal thread; a new topic. Discussing it here, just opens up this thread to other issues, and moreover, limits your views to those who have opted in to GB.

[James24]

I don't know for sure if what you are saying is true or not because I haven't seen it with my own eyes. For all I know, maybe those players who do not like insanely tough difficulty just keep quiet and don't play those games instead of voicing their 1 or 0 star opinions. But if they silently avoid it and just don't speak their mind then what difference does it make? It is still rejection just said in another form.

If a game requires far above average skill to play then by definition only a small percentage of the population will have the aptitude to play the game. And of those who have the aptitude only a small fraction will have the time to master the game. The masses will simply get locked out and have nothing to play. How on earth can they be happy like that? I just can't see it happening.

[Anarchy_Balsac]

Well for the most part, they CAN'T ratings bomb them. Many, such as Unlimited, Rock Force, 2.5D and others have their OWN WEBSITES, and are pretty much exclusively hosted/downloaded from such.

[James24]

Ah I see. Simply suppressing people's ability or means to say what's on their mind does not mean that they truly accept the game. They probably still think its a 0 or 1 star game but just can't communicate it to you - that's all. And in a way it does make sense that a free developer would supress people's ability to communicate to them what they think of the quest. It doesn't matter what they think or what they want - the game was purely made for the enjoyment of the free developer. What people want is irrelevant as long as they aren't prepared to pay for it or spend the time making it themselves.

I personally think people should be able to express what they think. At least you know what's on their mind and I can deal with a few harsh words. With this system of suppression, you can potentially lose valuable information and insights which you might otherwise overlook.

[Anarchy_Balsac]

Ah I see. Simply suppressing people's ability or means to say what's on their mind does not mean that they truly accept the game. They probably still think its a 0 or 1 star game but just can't communicate it to you - that's all. And in a way it does make sense that a free developer would supress people's ability to communicate to them what they think of the quest. It doesn't matter what they think or what they want - the game was purely made for the enjoyment of the free developer. What people want is irrelevant as long as they aren't prepared to pay for it or spend the time making it themselves.

I personally think people should be able to express what they think. At least you know what's on their mind and I can deal with a few harsh words. With this system of suppression, you can potentially lose valuable information and insights which you might otherwise overlook.

It doesn't, but without a HIGHLY VISIBLE rating, it keeps them from disuading others from trying it, or at least makes it harder. I'm okay with people being able to express dissenting opinions, what I am NOT okay with, is dipshits having the ability to turn people away out of spite by just clicking a rating, or people with the stupidest of complaints (i.e. I played your game like an idiot, that's your fault and not mine, 0 stars) being able to do the same.

Or TLDR - Ratings are too easily abused and I don't wanna deal with that.