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    By Demo I mean like Level 1 and 2, to make sure you understand the rules and don't break them, etc.

    Definitely doesn't have to be complete.

    EDIT: The participants so far are @bigjoe , @Nightmare , Lunaria, and @Moosh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    By Demo I mean like Level 1 and 2, to make sure you understand the rules and don't break them, etc.

    Definitely doesn't have to be complete.

    EDIT: The participants so far are @bigjoe , @Nightmare , Lunaria, and @Moosh

    -James
    I have decided to redo levels 2, 3, 6, 7, 8. You can have a demo of lv1 if you want but that's about all right now.


    Also,
    You should give some other people more time to see this (this thread gets buried for periods of time and agn isn't super active all the time), and creating an artificial cutoff point might not be the best way to do it. There's /some/ interest in either an official 6th, or something new as well, which is something. ..I know half the people at purezc are totally against NES spirited ZC things, but in all honesty there are much worse things than having some kind of quest contest for ZC every five years; if anything it just means it's not dead yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleeok View Post
    I have decided to redo levels 2, 3, 6, 7, 8. You can have a demo of lv1 if you want but that's about all right now.


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    You should give some other people more time to see this (this thread gets buried for periods of time and agn isn't super active all the time), and creating an artificial cutoff point might not be the best way to do it. There's /some/ interest in either an official 6th, or something new as well, which is something. ..I know half the people at purezc are totally against NES spirited ZC things, but in all honesty there are much worse things than having some kind of quest contest for ZC every five years; if anything it just means it's not dead yet.
    The thing is Gleeok, we've now got 7 entries (maybe 8 if TK enters) if you get your demo in. Time-wise, I really can't handle any more.

    Special cases might be made for AlphaDawg, Imzo, LoveForFire, and HeroOfFire, because of their outstanding contributions, but really, the contest is closed at this point, unless you want it going on another 2-3 years (which no one wants!, lol)

    Basically want 2-3 months for dev, like 1-2 months for testing/rev, then voting. Final 2 might get public runoff on all forums, undecided on that.

    I said it was an "invitational" for a reason, not an open contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    The thing is Gleeok, we've now got 7 entries (maybe 8 if TK enters) if you get your demo in. Time-wise, I really can't handle any more.

    Special cases might be made for AlphaDawg, Imzo, LoveForFire, and HeroOfFire, because of their outstanding contributions, but really, the contest is closed at this point, unless you want it going on another 2-3 years (which no one wants!, lol)

    Basically want 2-3 months for dev, like 1-2 months for testing/rev, then voting. Final 2 might get public runoff on all forums, undecided on that.

    I said it was an "invitational" for a reason, not an open contest.

    -James
    Well, what precisely is making it official in any st4anding if it is purely private? If @PhamtomMenace wants to pop in and list some rules for it, or sign off on its standing, that is his business, but you are essentially telling s lead ZC developer at this point that his suggestion has no merit because you don;t have time to run a full open contest. I'm utterly baffled. I have no seen a peep out of @War Lord on it, either. Slapping the word official 'on it and making it a private event smacks of nepotism at this point, where the entire package is s4upposed to be open content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoriaRPG View Post
    Well, what precisely is making it official in any st4anding if it is purely private? If @PhamtomMenace wants to pop in and list some rules for it, or sign off on its standing, that is his business, but you are essentially telling s lead ZC developer at this point that his suggestion has no merit because you don;t have time to run a full open contest. I'm utterly baffled. I have no seen a peep out of @War Lord on it, either. Slapping the word official 'on it and making it a private event smacks of nepotism at this point, where the entire package is s4upposed to be open content.
    I never said it was official. Apparently you missed my last post before I posted it. We never said we were packaging it in or anything.

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    NOTE: If you want to make it official and open, do it on your time, and spend 2-3 years, I'm not stopping you. But just telling you quite frankly I do not have time to judge 25+ entries and play through them all, and quite frankly, neither does anyone else at this point. If you would like to do it yourself, make videos of everyone, judge yourself, at about 3rd, 5th, or James Quest difficulty, and still do what you want to do with your life, that's totally fine by me. I'm at limit's end as is in getting this done in any type of timeframe with about 10.

    I know it might not be the most "fair" and "open" thing to do, but honestly, if we do an open contest, take 2-3 years to get through everything, the landscape might not even be the same honestly. We started the 5th in 2014 and by the time we got done, we had Mario Maker come out, and that forced people to change their way of thinking.

    I'm doing my best here, and that's why I didn't promise packaging in. If you so desire, I will turn the reigns over to you, and you will see the issues TSA, DarkDragon, and I had getting things done in a reasonable time somewhat by yourself. I wish you luck if that happens.
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    @Nightmare : For the record, you only listed 4 names. I had thought you were trying to get more people instead of less, which is a little strange, but I can tell you that after the 5th contest you want about 7-8 entries max, otherwise it does take much longer you are right about that.

    Anyway, it sounds like there might be around five total, which isn't too many.
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    Well, here's my list:
    @bigjoe
    @Nightmare
    @Lunaria
    @Moosh
    @Dimentio

    Potentials and people I'd let in from past experience if interested
    @Gleeok
    @TK8305
    @Imzogelmo
    @Love For Fire
    @HeroOfFire
    @AlphaDawg
    @HeroOfFire
    @Shoelace
    @Questwizard88

    So far QW, HeroOfFire and Shoelace haven't responded, the others haven't been on in a while. And @Chris Miller and [MENTION=39015] @Matthew Bluefox were invited, but are confirmed nos so far.

    I will be making a massive update on demos and rules once everything is more set in stone. Right now a lot of moving parts. Right now trying to get a judging system in place and getting people to not be super kaizo with difficulty in Level 1.

    EDIT: I think most people will be cool with the top two quests to be on a public runoff between all 3 forums (here, PureZC, and speedrun.com). How we get there and narrow it down I don't know yet. I'm all ears for that one that'll take a reasonable amount of time.

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    I don't see why we can't have more than one contest honestly, and why we can't have more community-sponsored contests over official ones. Sometimes we just need damn practice game developing, and if we have them and not every month it's cool.

    As for an "Open" Contest, I know that was being discussed, but you have to find someone who's willing to run it, and allow for teams too. That's a whole different ballgame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    As for an "Open" Contest, I know that was being discussed, but you have to find someone who's willing to run it, and allow for teams too. That's a whole different ballgame.

    -James
    It's a good thing you already found someone willing to do it, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimentio View Post
    It's a good thing you already found someone willing to do it, then.
    I was actually referencing something else that Zoria said, like an open asset non-copyright infringing contest.

    I should've been more clear.

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