Round 2...

[Gleeok]

...Fight!

So... I've had little free time these last few months so progress has been slow to say the least, but now it's time to move on to the next round of *stuff*.
A quick look back at what there is reveals a whole lot of, in no particular order: scripting api, resources, file handling, data types, management classes, game states, graphics, rendering, debugging, half-finished ideas, and lots of half-implemented crap; plus everything else I didn't mention. Making an rpg is already hard enough as is!

Anyway, we're moving on to more entity based code now (thank God) - things like camera, map screens, player, battle entities, etc. so it should be more fun and motivating to work on now that all the dreary detail stuff is workable! ...Still putting off the UI though ... :\


On a similar note; got tilemap related saving/loading/rendering working,..yet again.. This time we have unlimited wraparound and no crashing when drawing off the edges of maps - always a plus.
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Normal (left), Tinted nighttime(right)
(I don't miss the palettes at all)

[SUCCESSOR]

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Normal (left), Tinted nighttime(right)
(I don't miss the palettes at all)

It's beautiful! Just beautiful!

[CJC]

Smooth and awesome.


One question... is the night tint an overlay or just a different palette?

[Gleeok]

Nope, no overlays or palettes.
It's just a simple color attribute every layer has. That is literally "layer->color = color(20, 90, 160, 255); ( forgot the exact color)" There's also layer blending and shaders (this is going to be awesome) - though we are in desperate need of some map editing tools before we can even break the surface of those.

Got a camera and mapscreen class rockin. Next up is to get a Player rolling and see if we can walk around town. :)

[SUCCESSOR]

Nope, no overlays or palettes.
It's just a simple color attribute every layer has. That is literally "layer->color = color(20, 90, 160, 255); ( forgot the exact color)" There's also layer blending and shaders (this is going to be awesome) - though we are in desperate need of some map editing tools before we can even break the surface of those.

Got a camera and mapscreen class rockin. Next up is to get a Player rolling and see if we can walk around town. :)

This is the beautiful thing, no palettes!

[Gleeok]

I got a shitload of stuff done today! Woo! :)


Also, if anyone knows whether or not all maps in FF wrap-around let me know. Right now it looks like a yes (from sky castle and overworld maps) and instead of a repeating pattern maps are simply "large enough" so you can't ever see the other side from one edge. At least it looks like that based off where you can walk. Most the maps suggest 1024x1024 (64x64 tiles) I think, but then there's Waterfall Cave and Gurgu Volcano where I'm not so sure. hmm...

[Tamamo]

Also, if anyone knows whether or not all maps in FF wrap-around let me know. Right now it looks like a yes (from sky castle and overworld maps) and instead of a repeating pattern maps are simply "large enough" so you can't ever see the other side from one edge. At least it looks like that based off where you can walk. Most the maps suggest 1024x1024 (64x64 tiles) I think, but then there's Waterfall Cave and Gurgu Volcano where I'm not so sure. hmm...

Shouldn't that be an optional thing though rather then forced for every map.

[CJC]

Also, if anyone knows whether or not all maps in FF wrap-around let me know. Right now it looks like a yes (from sky castle and overworld maps) and instead of a repeating pattern maps are simply "large enough" so you can't ever see the other side from one edge. At least it looks like that based off where you can walk. Most the maps suggest 1024x1024 (64x64 tiles) I think, but then there's Waterfall Cave and Gurgu Volcano where I'm not so sure. hmm...

As far as I am aware, you are correct on this one. I seem to recall someone glitching the game to get behind the walls of the Waterfall Cavern, and thereby being able to wrap around the map. It is also very apparent in the Sunken Shrine. Since the dungeons are all probably built in the same way, the Volcano must have enough 'dead wall' space to avoid spotting the wrap-around.

[Gleeok]

As far as I am aware, you are correct on this one. I seem to recall someone glitching the game to get behind the walls of the Waterfall Cavern, and thereby being able to wrap around the map. It is also very apparent in the Sunken Shrine. Since the dungeons are all probably built in the same way, the Volcano must have enough 'dead wall' space to avoid spotting the wrap-around.

Ah, good to hear. I think part of the problem is a few of my maps are wrong, and they should be max-size of 64x64. I don't think they all need to be 64x64 though as long sa there's sufficient padding for the camera.
Thanks.

Shouldn't that be an optional thing though rather then forced for every map.

Yep. It is an option property of a map object. It's even changeable by script. "map.wrap = enable";


Next up is to finish groups and actions in battle.(Yep groups like old-school rpgs, I like em.)

[Imzogelmo]

Yes, I am pretty sure all maps are wrap around in FF1. The town of Lefein even lets you see the "other side," and the Sea Shrine actually forces you to walk off the edge to get to the other side for a chest. And that just makes no sense logically. You have to literally think outside the box when getting there.