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    Round 2...

    ...Fight!

    So... I've had little free time these last few months so progress has been slow to say the least, but now it's time to move on to the next round of *stuff*.
    A quick look back at what there is reveals a whole lot of, in no particular order: scripting api, resources, file handling, data types, management classes, game states, graphics, rendering, debugging, half-finished ideas, and lots of half-implemented crap; plus everything else I didn't mention. Making an rpg is already hard enough as is!

    Anyway, we're moving on to more entity based code now (thank God) - things like camera, map screens, player, battle entities, etc. so it should be more fun and motivating to work on now that all the dreary detail stuff is workable! ...Still putting off the UI though ... :\


    On a similar note; got tilemap related saving/loading/rendering working,..yet again.. This time we have unlimited wraparound and no crashing when drawing off the edges of maps - always a plus.
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    Normal (left), Tinted nighttime(right)
    (I don't miss the palettes at all)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleeok View Post
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    (I don't miss the palettes at all)
    It's beautiful! Just beautiful!

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    Smooth and awesome.


    One question... is the night tint an overlay or just a different palette?

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    Nope, no overlays or palettes.
    It's just a simple color attribute every layer has. That is literally "layer->color = color(20, 90, 160, 255); ( forgot the exact color)" There's also layer blending and shaders (this is going to be awesome) - though we are in desperate need of some map editing tools before we can even break the surface of those.

    Got a camera and mapscreen class rockin. Next up is to get a Player rolling and see if we can walk around town. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleeok View Post
    Nope, no overlays or palettes.
    It's just a simple color attribute every layer has. That is literally "layer->color = color(20, 90, 160, 255); ( forgot the exact color)" There's also layer blending and shaders (this is going to be awesome) - though we are in desperate need of some map editing tools before we can even break the surface of those.

    Got a camera and mapscreen class rockin. Next up is to get a Player rolling and see if we can walk around town. :)
    This is the beautiful thing, no palettes!

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    I got a shitload of stuff done today! Woo! :)


    Also, if anyone knows whether or not all maps in FF wrap-around let me know. Right now it looks like a yes (from sky castle and overworld maps) and instead of a repeating pattern maps are simply "large enough" so you can't ever see the other side from one edge. At least it looks like that based off where you can walk. Most the maps suggest 1024x1024 (64x64 tiles) I think, but then there's Waterfall Cave and Gurgu Volcano where I'm not so sure. hmm...
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    And now I give you *drumroll please* ... The most complicated way, ever, to get sprites on a screen!!!! (If you don't know what I'm talking about then you probably haven't tried to rewrite rpg maker....yeah)


    Someone write a caption for it because I'm just too tired right now..


    Oh yeah, we has battle engine with scripts now. How ever many combat guys that are on the screen is how many scripts are running (I didn't count).

    Fun thing #1: You can have any combination of monsters/ monster troops stacked together in any combination when a battle is created. The above is just 4 battles added at once. (I also added 32 party members to my party)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleeok View Post
    Also, if anyone knows whether or not all maps in FF wrap-around let me know. Right now it looks like a yes (from sky castle and overworld maps) and instead of a repeating pattern maps are simply "large enough" so you can't ever see the other side from one edge. At least it looks like that based off where you can walk. Most the maps suggest 1024x1024 (64x64 tiles) I think, but then there's Waterfall Cave and Gurgu Volcano where I'm not so sure. hmm...
    "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" (British Royal Institute, 1906)
    "The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem" �Henry Ford
    "Dope Inc. - Britain Opium War Against The U.S." (LaRouche; Konstandinos Kalimtgis; David Goldman; Jeffrey Stienberg, 1978)
    "Fundamental Laws: A Report of the 68th Convocation of the Rose Cross Order" 1916
    "War is a Racket" �Major General Smedley Butler
    "The Secret Destiny of America" �Manly P. Hall
    "A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties" Oded Yinon (English Translation)
    The WWI Conspiracy: Part 1 - Part 2 - Part 3 "A New World Order"
    The War You Don't See
    Psywar

    �The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushed its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating.� �Thomas Jefferson
    �It is well enough that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system for, if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.� �Henry Ford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleeok View Post
    And now I give you *drumroll please* ... The most complicated way, ever, to get sprites on a screen!!!! (If you don't know what I'm talking about then you probably haven't tried to rewrite rpg maker....yeah)


    Someone write a caption for it because I'm just too tired right now..


    Oh yeah, we has battle engine with scripts now. How ever many combat guys that are on the screen is how many scripts are running (I didn't count).

    Fun thing #1: You can have any combination of monsters/ monster troops stacked together in any combination when a battle is created. The above is just 4 battles added at once. (I also added 32 party members to my party)
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    Also still on the table:
    Wow. This is going to be huge. Awesome image.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleeok View Post
    Also, if anyone knows whether or not all maps in FF wrap-around let me know. Right now it looks like a yes (from sky castle and overworld maps) and instead of a repeating pattern maps are simply "large enough" so you can't ever see the other side from one edge. At least it looks like that based off where you can walk. Most the maps suggest 1024x1024 (64x64 tiles) I think, but then there's Waterfall Cave and Gurgu Volcano where I'm not so sure. hmm...
    Shouldn't that be an optional thing though rather then forced for every map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleeok View Post
    Also, if anyone knows whether or not all maps in FF wrap-around let me know. Right now it looks like a yes (from sky castle and overworld maps) and instead of a repeating pattern maps are simply "large enough" so you can't ever see the other side from one edge. At least it looks like that based off where you can walk. Most the maps suggest 1024x1024 (64x64 tiles) I think, but then there's Waterfall Cave and Gurgu Volcano where I'm not so sure. hmm...
    As far as I am aware, you are correct on this one. I seem to recall someone glitching the game to get behind the walls of the Waterfall Cavern, and thereby being able to wrap around the map. It is also very apparent in the Sunken Shrine. Since the dungeons are all probably built in the same way, the Volcano must have enough 'dead wall' space to avoid spotting the wrap-around.

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