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    Freeform Combo Tutorial

    Now, this is essentially just the basics of using Freeform combos. I still haven't even figured out everything with them yet. Also, this is for beta 10b.

    Sorry for the crude example quest.

    First of all, I'll go over the freeform combo menu.

    You see a lot of options there.
    Link To: This links this freeform combo to another. Any movement changes the other combo takes will apply to this one.
    X Pos: This is where the combo lies on the X axis.
    Y Pos: This is where the combo lies on the Y axis.
    X Speed: This is how fast the FF combo goes horizontally.
    Y Speed: This is how fast the FF combo goes vertically.
    X Accel: This determines if the combo picks up speed or not horizontally.
    Y Accel: This determines if the combo picks up speed or not vertically.
    A. Delay: This measures how long the FF combo waits before moving.

    Here's the flag section of the freeform combo menu.

    Draw Over - This places the combo above all layers.
    Translucent - This makes the combo translucent or not.
    Carry-Over - I unfortunately haven't figured out what this does or not yet.
    Chng Next - This changes the freeform combo's combo to the next in the combo list.
    Chng Prev - This changes the freeform combo's combo to the previous in the combo list.
    I don't know what the other options do yet.

    Okay, let's start making some freeform combos. :)

    This is a freeform combo I have set. If you want to know the X and Y coordinates for the freeform combo, I suggest using one of the blue continue squares, and place it where you want the freeform combo. Under the freeform square, it gives you the X and Y positions. You can use this to base where to place you freeform combo.

    As you see, I have set the combo for the freeform combo, the position and the speed. Also note that a negative "X Speed" goes left, and a negative "Y Speed" goes up.
    If you test it out via the preview mode, this freeform combo simply goes left. :)

    It's hard to see, but I have placed a new freeform combo to the right of the screen. It goes the same speed as the left bush, but what if I want to have the left bush start moving as the right bush passes it?

    This is done via the "A. Delay". You pretty much have to test around with it to get it working right, but he, that's what the preview mode is for. To test out Freeform combos, press "X" and then "C". Here I have the A. Delay set to 48. And, when tested it does indeed run parallel to the other bush. :)

    Now, let's test around with how to change our freeform combos. First, make a combo with the combo type "FF Combo Attr. Change". Do note that freeform combos of this combo type are invisible in ZC, so if you want something to mark the change, you will have to place normal combos down via the screen editor.

    Here you see the freeform combo I have set for the combo change. I have the positions, as well as a speed. However, this freeform combo itself doesn't move at all. You see, when another freeform combo hits this combo, that other freeform combo will take on the properties of this combo. So, when one of those bushes hit this combo, it will get a X and Y speed of 1.

    In this instance, it causes the top bush to go to the bottom right.

    Now to use the flags. Some of these flags, such as translucent and draw over, can be placed on any freeform combos and take affect. The bottom flags are only meant for "FF Combo Attr. Change" combos. Again, any flags placed on a FF Combo Attr. Change combo will take place when another FF combo hits it. Here I have selected "Translucent" and "Chng Next" on the FF Combo Attr. Change Combo. Also, I have also placed more FF Combo Attr. Changes with other speeds which make the freeform combo loop around (also, they turn of the Armos' translucency).

    This caused the top bush to become translucent, and switch to the next combo in the combo list. Here it was the Armos combo.
    Now, you might wonder why moving bushes and translucent armoses are important. Well, they're not. Freeform combos are great for movement in cutscenes, among other things. Here's an example.

    I made 5 combos of Link, each walking in different direction (the last one is Link walking left again). I then set all those "FF Combo Attr. Change" freeform combos to "Chng Next". When the Link combo hits each one, he will change directions and change to the next combo in the list, making it look like he's walking in different directions. Take a look.



    There's one last thing I'ld like to cover, and that's linking freeform combos. It's simple to link Freeform combos. In my example, I want that bush to switch directions along with Link.

    Simply change the "Link To:" drop down box to the freeform combo you want it to copy. So, I set the bush to link to the combo which Link is in, which is number 2. However, don't change Link's freeform combo to link to the bush's freeform combo.

    As you see, the bush went diagonal along with Link. :)

    There. That's pretty much all I know now, but I'll get back to you all once I understand more. If you need the example quest I made, you can access it here.
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    Re: Freeform Combo Tutorial

    For the love of God people, read this.

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    Re: Freeform Combo Tutorial

    Right, with moving platforms over something you can't walk on, like a hole, when you walk on the platform, do you move with it or do you have to move manually?
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    Re: Freeform Combo Tutorial

    I don't think freeform combos can be walked on yet. Let me give it a test, but I would believe that you'd have to walk manually unless you made the freeform combos conveyors
    Keeping something big a secret, in case it doesn't work out I can understand.
    But he deliberatly drops little hints just to drive us mad.

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    Re: Freeform Combo Tutorial

    What does Carry Over do exactly?

    I think there should be a flag where you can make it so that the game remembers the location of the freeform combo after you leave the screen so that when you return, it will be where it left off rather than resetting itself.
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    Re: Freeform Combo Tutorial

    Quote Originally Posted by idontknow
    What does Carry Over do exactly?

    I think there should be a flag where you can make it so that the game remembers the location of the freeform combo after you leave the screen so that when you return, it will be where it left off rather than resetting itself.
    Not the flag, but the screen flag makes the FFC loop after it reaches the edge, at least this happened to me.

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    Re: Freeform Combo Tutorial

    The Carry Over flag, as I've recently discovered, forces the freeform combo onto the next screen if there is a warp.

    Quote Originally Posted by firefly
    Not the flag, but the screen flag makes the FFC loop after it reaches the edge, at least this happened to me.
    You are refering to the FF Combo Wrap-Around screen flag, not the Carry Over.
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    Re: Freeform Combo Tutorial

    also, the carry over, if you don't have a warp, just continues to run across the whole screen. Btw, i tried making the ff combo a moving platform but it didn't work...

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    Re: Freeform Combo Tutorial

    About the moving platforms... Clever use of conveyor combos can make these work, I'd guess... Anyone tried this?

    Super Newfirst. More shots when I finish the dungeon combos >_>

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    Re: Freeform Combo Tutorial

    ^Yes, conveyor combos don't work as freeform combos, which sucks!
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