(DS) Crystal Chronicles; Echoes of time

[Banon]

And Banon, I managed to finish that puzle just before getting that hint. Oh my gosh, that was so annoying. I didn't even NOTICE that damn bookcase the first time!

For the record, you can cheat by hitting the switch with holy (cure+raise).

Try not to do that too often though... it wrecks the game.

The puzzles don't get much harder than that, but the platforming does.

Edit: I registered you.

[Anthus]

I want to get this game. These games are like 3D "Final Fantasy Adventures" games :o

[MasterSwordUltima]

So gimme some more info. My Mirau character was a Clavet, and I'm pretty sure I had Ragnarok/Feather Shield. But that is clearly irrelevant to the equipment in this one.

Are the controls very similar? Is combat similar? Can you do charge attacks still? Do different weapons do different charge attacks? Can you combine spells with weapons/other spells?

Also, how much do both versions cost?

[Nicholas Steel]

The Wii version is pretty much just the DS game emulated on a Wii (with SLIGHTLY improved graphics).

You'd get a notable massive increase in view distance right? RIGHT??!?

[MasterSwordUltima]

So they didn't change the GUI for the Wii version at all? It's literally two screens pasted up on your TV?

[*b*]

Picked it up on the 4th and I've been hooked. Holy fuck is this fun. I love how you can change the appearance of your character with different equipment, though I've only played Clavat so far so I don't know about the rest. But being able to equip any weapon to any race is just plain brilliant

While the story is kinda blah, and the areas are certainly no FFCC for the GCN, it sure is fun to play. What you can do certainly beats out FFCC's controls, that's for sure

[Aegix Drakan]

Are the controls very similar?
Is combat similar?
Can you do charge attacks still?
Do different weapons do different charge attacks?
Can you combine spells with weapons/other spells?
Also, how much do both versions cost?

You want info? Ok...but you aaaaaasked for it!

[WALL OF TEXT]

controls: Slightly similar, but BETTER. Instead of having to cycle through a list of commands to attack, or defend, or whatever, each command is mapped to a different button. You still run around a dungeon and stuff, but you can also jump, attack with (A), cast magic with (X), Pick up stuff/players/enemies with (y), etc.

combat: Well...pretty much, although there is much more emphasis on dodging and striking form other angles, and such than blocking (emphasised that you have to LEARN block, and it takes a little while). Also, magic is a bit better. You no longer have to time your spells perfectly to cast a combination spell. PLUS, you can jump on top of enemies to curb-stomp them, hang by the arms from a flying enemy, and pick enemies up to smash them into walls. Also, there is now an MP meter that determines how many spells you can cast/charge attacks you can do before you need to grab a fruit or an ether.

Charge attacks: yes and no. YES, there are still charge attacks, but they are a bit different. You no longer have a cursor, and each weapon doesn't have a unique one. Instead, each weapon type (bows, staves, etc) has two, with the second requiring you to hold a charge attack down until it charges level one, and then to level 2. Also, some races only learn certain weapon charge attacks. (IE, only selkies will learn how to charge a racquet, and learn to do a 3 hit combo with them)

Combining spells: Sadly, the enchanted focus attacks are gone. However, you can still combine spells. And in fact, I prefer this system. You can cast various spells out of your pool of (fire/ice/thunder/cure/raise/clear) and then either lock the target ring over an enemy (or a location) by pressing L. (example, you call out an Ice ring. YOu press L when it's under a goblin. you bring out another ice ring, position it over the first ice ring, release and then BAM. Blizzara.). There are also a good amount of combo spells you can do (holy, gravity, haste, barrier, Quake, ETC). Most basic spell fusions can be done solo with the locking mechanic, and most advanced ones (ultima, Holyga) require a lot more people, with at least one Yuke.

Also, your outward appearance is pretty central to the game. If you buy black mage robes, and put them on your clavat, your clavat will ACTUALLY wear the black mage robes!

And yes, on the Wii, they basically just paste two screens on your TV screen.

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[Banon]

Most basic spell fusions can be done solo with the locking mechanic, and most advanced ones (ultima, Holyga) require a lot more people, with at least one Yuke.

You can do Ultima, and Holyga? Wow! I never noticed that.

On another note with the magic, Yukes can do Firaja, Blizzaja, Thundaja etc. by themselves, but the difficulty comes with getting enough of a lapse in combat to stack four spells. Especially if you have a target other than yourself in mind, because you need to move every casting ring to the same spot.

Oh, and magic rings can lock onto enemies now.

[MasterSwordUltima]

When did this come out? Is it going to cost me $50?

[Aegix Drakan]

Came out about 2 weeks ago (ish)

And as for how much it costs, not sure. The DS version is about 40$, no idea about the Wii version.