Worst President Ever!

[MottZilla]

I didn't like Reagan, though I like him alot more now that the motherfucker is dead.

[phattonez]

It's not just his fault. Calvin Coolidge knew that the Depression was coming and he did nothing either.

[Starkist]

It's actually a myth that President Hoover did nothing to prevent the Depression. He tried a lot of things, they just didn't work. President Roosevelt's ideas did not end the Depression either, though they helped. We can thank World War II for bringing us fully out of it. Nothing like a war to get a country moving.

[Daarkseid]

If Thomas Jefferson is a democrat then Ron Paul is a communist. It's pretty insane to view Thomas Jefferson as an icon of what the modern democrats value. If you showed Thomas Jefferson the size of today's federal government, he'd shit his face.

And Republicans claim Abraham Lincoln as their own, even though Republicans today hardly resemble Lincoln's party(except maybe wanting to suspend Habeas Corpus).

Jefferson did have some views in line with Democrats, in particular favoring the small farmer against the richer merchant and business class in early America. However yes, claiming him a Democrat is dubious from anything but a historical sense.

He tried a lot of things, they just didn't work. President Roosevelt's ideas did not end the Depression either, though they helped. We can thank World War II for bringing us fully out of it. Nothing like a war to get a country moving.

Part of what aggravated the depression was the fact we were an industrial nation that output way more product than could easily be sold, since we had expanded in the 1910s and 1920s to sell to Europeans who first used our products for war, then for post war reconstruction. Well it was around the late 1920s that demand for American goods dropped off as Europe was beginning to rebuild its industry.

At that time, most of the rest of the world was undeveloped and had little immediate need for machinary or steel.

Roosevelt's New Deal attempted to get industry start by creating artificial demand on some goods while subsidizing lagging industries. The effect was that business became profitable again and people were being employed again, but it was mostly artificial; it wasn't a real economic recovery and even attempts by Roosevelt later in the 1930s to scale back his new deal resulted in economic recession.

The second World War, however, revived legitimate demand of American goods, as well as the government spending large amounts of tax revenue on American munitions for the war effort. Once the war ended, our economy continued booming because of post war reconstruction in places badly affected by the war.

[MottZilla]

Our latest war is doing the opposite and helping the country into the shitter. Well I guess that's what happens when you start bullshit wars instead of real ones.

[AlphaDawg]

I voted for Jimmy Carter, if for no reason other than he's the only president who's managed to become even worse since leaving office.

[Starkist]

Our latest war is doing the opposite and helping the country into the shitter. Well I guess that's what happens when you start bullshit wars instead of real ones.

You know, I don't really want to start an argument, but your ignorance is annoying. To say what you said, you must have evidence that the slowing economy is a direct result of the continued war in Iraq. This may be hard to establish, considering the economy grew pretty well between 2003 and 2007. If the war is the reason for the current slowdown, does that mean the upswing of those years was also due to the war?

[Beldaran]

you must have evidence that the slowing economy is a direct result of the continued war in Iraq.

We are paying billions of dollars for the war in Iraq. We don't actually have these billions of dollars. We borrow these billions of dollars from China, a communist dictatorship. Also, we print lots of money. The value of the dollar plummets since we are a) printing dollars and b) flooding markets with dollars that don't exist normally in the American economy because we are borrowing them from an enemy who thinks it's fun to watch us splash around like jack asses.

The demand for oil is rising and the value of the dollar is dropping, so gas prices in the united states become astronomically expensive. By proxy, abso-fucking-lutely everything else becomes really expensive. Airlines file bankruptcy. Food prices rise. People spend less money on entertainment and travel.

Stupid purposeless war = worse economy.

[phattonez]

Someone want to prove that this wouldn't have happened if there was no war?

[Icey]

I voted for Rutherford B. Hayes. Nothing is more annoying than the fiasco of 1877.

Otherwise I would have picked W. He really is just terrible on every level. I can't stand neo-conservative ideology.