Beldaran, the price of games DID go down. N64 games cost as much as 80$! The same happened in the NES and SNES days. Large ROM sizes and the cost of battery or eeprom components to save games added to the cost.
When Playstation and Sega Saturn came around, prices fell to what we were used for quite some time. 40$ and 50$ for new games. But then with the Xbox 360 and PS3 they decided to jack it up 10 bucks. But the switch to optical media did make manufacturing costs go down.
Because they're greedy bastards?Originally Posted by Beldaran
The only reason that Nintendo gives a shit at all is because they don't want any profits from their shitty VC system to be taken. That's it.
If we're talking about today's games, Xbox 360 and PS3 games are sold at $60 because they feel they can justify an extra $10, and development costs for HD systems are much higher. A store might make only $15 off of a game while the rest goes back to the publisher, which is why Gamestop is very big on used games.
If we're talking about old games on cartridges, they were expensive.
NES games used to cost $60
The large SNES RPGs like Final Fantasy III, Chrono Trigger, and Secret of Mana would cost about $70-$80 when they came out.
N64 games were $60, with 3rd party games at $70.
Playstation games were on CDs and cost much less than N64 games, about $40-$50 a game. Sony's rerelease Greatest Hits line was $20, while Nintendo's rerelease Player's Choice line was $40. Eventually Nintendo lowered prices on cartridges that brought 3rd party game prices down.
Prices went down because the storage media got cheaper, then went back up with the Xbox 360 and PS3 because of development costs, and a new price standard was set.
As for emulation, I liked what someone said once, emulate the classics that you can't play anymore, but anything else is straight up piracy.
That statement makes it sound like it's worse for me to download a copy of Goldeneye, for which I already own both an N64 and the game itself, than it would be for me to download Earthbound, in which case I own neither the game nor the system. I actually have a ROM of Goldeneye on my computer at the moment, which is why I bring it up.
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Sorry. When I said everyone, I was talking about the new kids on the block.
All of us AGN oldtimers were up front. Should have made that clear. You know I love you, twin.
Either way, it is illegal. For you to legally have a rom of Goldeneye, you have to make your OWN backup.
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I never said it wasn't illegal. I don't legitimately have a ROM of Goldeneye. But, in the grand scheme of things, I paid for a copy of Goldeneye, so I really don't give a shit.
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Wrong. The process of downloading the ROM is illegal. But just having the ROM isn't illegal as he bought the game. While you could argue that it's illegal since he didn't produce it, the end effect is the same as if he had. Just remember, virtually no one made their own NES backups, and I bet all of you have some NES roms. SNES and Genesis are the first times it was practical for the average user to backup their cartridges.
Last time I read up on my copyright law, possessing any copyrighted ROM image on your PC which you did not backup yourself is illegal. I could be wrong though, I'm not good at remembering things like that. I would look it up if I cared enough.
Then again, it's not like you're ever going to get any charges pressed against you for downloading ROMs. If they're going to go after anyone, it's going to be the huge sites that give out millions of files every day. They've simply got bigger fish to fry.
I have SNES ROMs for games I actually own, and I am alright with that. I am currently enjoying re-playing Chrono Trigger on my Gamecube using Snes9xGX and the SD Media Launcher I got a few weeks ago.
Yes, Revfan, as has been stated countless times already, it is illegal to possess any ROM image which you did not rip yourself. On the other hand, you're right, you're unlikely to have charges pressed against you, and especially if you've already compensated the developers for their effort, who gives a shit?
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