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    Re: URGENT: NeoFirst Needs YOU!

    Got it. I'm thinking at LEAST one puzzle for each item in each temp. Probably quite more.
    EDIT: Wait, I just thought of something. You said I only need three maps, which means I don't think I know how we're doing this. I thought that when the switch thing is activated, it warps you to an identical map of the other temperature. Am I wrong?
    RE-EDIT: Oh, wait, I think I got it. That's why it's only 8x8, so they lie side by side.

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    Re: URGENT: NeoFirst Needs YOU!

    Yeah. :p Left side can be fire, right side can be ice. If you need identical screens for like, mini-cutscenes, just use any extra space that's there in that 8x8 portion. The minibosses / bosses can be used on a different map, so don't worry about those.

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    Re: URGENT: NeoFirst Needs YOU!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowTiger View Post
    Anything, really. Devote a full room to it, and use at least two to three rooms, though no fewer than that, and no more than five.
    Methinks it should have an orb motif - after all, the boss is an Orb of Chaos.

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    Re: URGENT: NeoFirst Needs YOU!

    Amster, if you run into any trouble. I'll be glad to lend a hand.

    ST, you might want to use more than just one layer for this. Especially if you want the raft from above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowTiger View Post
    The dungeon will be VERY complex, based on both the items you have and don't have, and the temperature. For example, one path opens when you turn the dungeon to ice and another path will close.
    That made me think of an idea! And don't worry, this one is useable. Each room could have a top level and a bottom level. When the dungeon is ice, you can go around on the top level; when the dungeon is fire you can go on the bottom. Or is this what you already had in mind.

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    Re: URGENT: NeoFirst Needs YOU!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowTiger
    Anything, really. Devote a full room to it, and use at least two to three rooms, though no fewer than that, and no more than five.
    Actually, I was thinking of making a room, that no matter which temperature, is always half ice and half fire. When you cross it and go out the other side, you in the corosponding temperature. Heres a diagram thingy.

    ------------------------------------------------
    | | Change | |
    | Room |
    | |
    | | | |
    ------- ---------------------------- ------
    And than the two side rooms connect back to the main dungeon.
    Watcha think?
    EDIT: Dang, that diagram didn't work at all. Well, picture 3 rooms side by side, the one in the middle its the changeing room, and the ones on the side have exits in the bottom.

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    Re: URGENT: NeoFirst Needs YOU!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksfan
    ST, you might want to use more than just one layer for this. Especially if you want the raft from above.
    ... Dude, c'mon. Ya gotta give me more credit than that. XD To put it bluntly, Layering is my bytch. You don't *NEED* to host all layers on a map of its own. It has its own map for convenience only. You can literally place a layer anywhere you'd like, including the very same screen that uses it, or any other adventure screen.

    Quote Originally Posted by _L_
    Methinks it should have an orb motif - after all, the boss is an Orb of Chaos.
    That's a good idea. I wonder if I have any tiles that may work like that. I probably ripped some in my earlier ZC career.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mega Link
    That made me think of an idea! And don't worry, this one is useable. Each room could have a top level and a bottom level. When the dungeon is ice, you can go around on the top level; when the dungeon is fire you can go on the bottom. Or is this what you already had in mind.
    Either provide screenshots and examples, or leave me to my utterly hopeless confusion throes. I have no idea what you mean, and the idea of having rooms purely devoted to switching temperatures will work just fine. There will be no states existing simultaneously. The WHOLE DUNGEON is either very very hot, or very very cold. You can't have both.

    Amaster, same goes for your post. :p Thanks for the ideas though.

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    Re: URGENT: NeoFirst Needs YOU!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowTiger
    There will be no states existing simultaneously. The WHOLE DUNGEON is either very very hot, or very very cold. You can't have both.
    Umm..does this refer to my idea? Just wondering.

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    Re: URGENT: NeoFirst Needs YOU!

    Quote Originally Posted by My Previous Post
    Amaster, same goes for your post. :p Thanks for the ideas though.
    So yes.

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    Re: URGENT: NeoFirst Needs YOU!

    hehehehe
    Meaning no disrespect....
    That's what I thought it would turn into, didn't even take it a day.
    ShaddowTiger, if you want it exactly your way, you should build it yourself, nobody can read a mind.
    If you're going to have someone else build it, then let them do it their way.

    I thought you said this was a "group" quest that everyone owned.
    It's looking more like YOUR quest that you make all the decisions on and everyone else works for you and does things your way.
    Oh... your letting people make suggestions, but you end up deciding.....

    I've offered to help twice, and both times you've stepped on my toes, if it's yours, you do it.
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