Locations of HPC's

[rocksfan13]

I was just wondering where you plan on placing a majority of the HPC's in NeoFirst Shadow Tiger. I'd like to get some ideas rolling on the path of the strength of Link.
Since this hasn't been discussed yet.

I'm not too sure that placing them all or a mojority of them on the overworld would be a good idea. I mean, the idea of placing some in the maze that was discussed is good, but what of the rest?

[ShadowTiger]

*ShadowTiger. :p

Well, they won't be that difficult to find. Although I don't want to instill the feeling that it's alright to just throw these things around, I also don't want the player to feel that they have to place them so deviantly that people would never find them. I want to hide them in grottos and behind trees. Diligence will definitely be rewarded. I even want to hide a few of them in the Dungeons, such as in a few seemingly redundant rooms in Level 2 which will be useful in one state of heat and not in the other. There will more than likely be an HCP hidden in such a useless room. Somewhere. You'll just have to find it on your own. ;-D I expect every dungeon to have at LEAST one, if not two HCP's hidden somewhere. L3 could have quite a few more, since I Expect it to be rather large. (VERY large, in fact. I do hope so...)

On the overworld, there will be at least twelve acquirable in the town through various mediums. Little minigames, sidequests, burning trees, ... ... tons of possibilities.

Additionally, I think that I might give either an HCP or a HC for defeating a miniboss. I'd need to set up a poll for that or something, but I don't think it's too big of a deal. It'll probably end up being an HCP after all. I don't plan on having that special Dungeon item IN THE SAME ROOM with the miniboss anyway. That's just not done! :p


You'll have four Heart Containers to start out with. There will be three bosses, each of which will give you one full Heart Container. There -MIGHT- be some guy somewhere who can sense that you'll have defeated a boss, and might be able to give you another, assuming you can pass some sort of test. I'm not sure. Might be nice to have six extra Heart Containers for you efforts. :p

Then, well, since there are 24 HC's total, ... 4+6 = 10, ... So 24-10 = 14, ... 14*4 = 56 Heart Container Pieces. Wonderful. X x. lol, okay. So we've got a lot of work ahead of us then.

[rocksfan13]

Oh yes. Sounds like fun.

Depending on the "test", would it be wise to give out 6 HC's and not HPC's. I realise that there are only 3 levels and one overworld, but wouldn't that be a little much for one guy?

Giving at least 2 HCP's in the level sounds just. Since you're going to use the 24 HC option. I would suggest starting with 2 in the 1st level, then double it in the 2nd to make it 4, then double that iin the 3rd to make it 8, since you plan on making the next level larger than the previous.

You don't intend on using the Heart Container Type room do you?

I don't really think that should be used here, as nobody ever takes the potion.

[ShadowTiger]

Actually that'd be kinda nice. :p I had forgotten about that option. ^^; Should prove most useful. Since NeoFirst won't be massive, (Lots of walking around and exploring the overworld.) those potion/HC rooms will be invaluable. It'll save us a lot of HCP placement issues.

[rocksfan13]

That's true. But the same could be done by making it a special item room type and just make it a HC. The same thing applies, but without the potion option.

Another thought: How about the theives give out some of the HCP's as well. Could be used as a suble reward.
Also, are there going to be any fairy ponds?

[ShadowTiger]

That's true. But the same could be done by making it a special item room type and just make it a HC. The same thing applies, but without the potion option.

True; I just thought it'd be nice if the player actually had a choice, and knew that their decision could possibly screw them in the end. :p It's the very lowest step to "Replayability."

Another thought: How about the thieves give out some of the HCP's as well. Could be used as a suble reward.

Hm. Interesting idea. Those will undoubtedly be hidden behind statues as well. I can easily and happily foresee the Thieves having a TON of statues in their lairs. ;-p They're thieves, after all. I don't think they'll just give away their HCP's though. They're too valuable for that. They're only giving you wallets because you were good enough to find them in the first place, so it's a thiefenly sign of respect to give your "fellow thief" (Again, good enough to find him, so....) a bit of tools of the trade. My line of thought, anyway.

Also, are there going to be any fairy ponds?

I doubt it, actually. Most content related to that will be done via the three restoration points. I made a topic about it earlier; probably in the save point topic a ways back.

[Nimono]

If you want, I could try and find places to hide those Pieces of Heart in the overworld once you're done planning it (if you're not done already). Think about it, okay?

[ShadowTiger]

If you want, I could try and find places to hide those Pieces of Heart in the overworld once you're done planning it (if you're not done already). Think about it, okay?

If I haven't implied that enough at this point, I apologize. ;-p

I'm still planning out the mountain areas. I hate doing mountains. XD I should seriously just scan whatever I have and let someone else think about them, if they're so inclined.

[Nimono]

If I haven't implied that enough at this point, I apologize. ;-p

I'm still planning out the mountain areas. I hate doing mountains. XD I should seriously just scan whatever I have and let someone else think about them, if they're so inclined.

Mountain areas? Is one going to be snow? I like snow areas...

[ShadowTiger]

Generally, .. .. Head south from the Town. (Roughly in the center of the map; SLIGHTLY lower.) You'll hit the beach. Now head east one or two screens. You'll hit the lower reaches of the mountain ranges. If you continue directly/straight Northeast, the last thing you'll hit is L3. If you head directly east rather than Northeast, you'll be navigating among lava-flow mountains and such. The more east and south you go, the more lava there is. (There's some in the northeast too.) The more vertically-central you get, as well as vertically west you go along these mountains, the less lava and obsidian there is.