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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeiiii View Post
    I'm using Zelda Classic v2.50.2-win and Win10 Pro 64bit.

    But I found out, what the problem was. It wasn't the game, it was the VLC player. Maybe hardware acceleration?

    Without running VLC: 37-43/60 FPS

    If VLC is running: 60/60 FPS

    If someone else has a problem with a fast Link: Press F1 or turn off the VLC player.
    Set frame_rest_suggest = 0 in ag.cfg in that build. That should prevent that issue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoriaRPG View Post
    Set frame_rest_suggest = 0 in ag.cfg in that build. That should prevent that issue.
    I've tryed it, but it doesn't work. But closing the VLC-Player solved the problem. Thanks anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeiiii View Post
    I've tryed it, but it doesn't work. But closing the VLC-Player solved the problem. Thanks anyway.
    What is your indicated CPU usage when you are running both, and what system CPU% does each use (see Task manager)?

    Also, try the latest 2.53 Beta, instead of 2.50.2. it might not have the same issue, and I'd be curious to discover if that's the case.


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    The issue is resolved.
    Please just drop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamamo View Post
    @ZoriaRPG
    The issue is resolved.
    Please just drop it.
    No, it isn't. Bloody hell. if you don't want to participate, don#t participate. VLC does not have this effect on any of my systems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoriaRPG View Post
    What is your indicated CPU usage when you are running both, and what system CPU% does each use (see Task manager)?

    Also, try the latest 2.53 Beta, instead of 2.50.2. it might not have the same issue, and I'd be curious to discover if that's the case.
    My Taskmanager:




    2.53 Beta has the same "problem" => 60/60 FPS


    What does frame_rest_suggest = 0 mean? Default is 2 (in 2.53 beta) or 1 (in 2.50.2).

    But 1, 2 or 0 change nothing. Whatever I take: 60/60 FPS if VLC-Player is running.

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    frame_rest_suggest just gives back CPU if >= 1. This prevents 100% CPU usage; for example when streaming or recording/whatever. The problem is allegro timers are not uniform across all OS or Windows versions, and with every new version of Windows their "compatability layers" keep getting worse and worse.

    The good news is that VLC is open source so I can dig around there if need be.

    I'm confused though: Is the FPS too high or too low?



    (PS1: ZoriaRPG, is _WIN32 macro set in your compiler settings, or just WIN32? [both should be])
    (PS2: frame_rest_suggest you can just leave at 0. Probably should be made the default on WIN8/WIN10)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleeok View Post
    frame_rest_suggest just gives back CPU if >= 1. This prevents 100% CPU usage; for example when streaming or recording/whatever. The problem is allegro timers are not uniform across all OS or Windows versions, and with every new version of Windows their "compatability layers" keep getting worse and worse.

    The good news is that VLC is open source so I can dig around there if need be.

    I'm confused though: Is the FPS too high or too low?



    (PS1: ZoriaRPG, is _WIN32 macro set in your compiler settings, or just WIN32? [both should be])
    (PS2: frame_rest_suggest you can just leave at 0. Probably should be made the default on WIN8/WIN10)
    I thought that his FPS were dropping to ¬30 when VLC was either open, or running. It could have been the latter, and caused by a highly fragmented--or dying!!--HDD for all I know. I need more data fropm the OP, but he's using 2.50.2, not 2.53+, so it's not MSVC here--possibly elsewhere.

    What file should I check for those definitions? I'm pretty sure that both are set, but I may as well verify that.

    On the subject of framerate drops, apparently displaying the current FPS rate causes ZC Player to tank, and lose as much as 50% of its performance. I'm not yet sure why, as I haven't had time to look at it, but we'll need to eventually address some of these things, especially once I migrate the video bitmap to 32b OGL and start performing an intermediate blit--next version! (AL)

    frame_rate_suggest = 0 is the default now, AFAIR.

    I also need to rewrite the debug console, to use the newer w32 API, as when I compile using MSVC17/w10, it no longer works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleeok View Post
    I'm confused though: Is the FPS too high or too low?
    The FPS is to HIGH!!

    Without VLC-Player => 40/60 FPS
    With a running VLC-Player => 60/60 FPS

    If the VLC-Player is running, Link runs fast, the strings a written faster and of course I can fight faster. It is like a speedrun cheat.

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    Thing is, that doesn't make sense. 40 FPS should be slower than normal, not faster. The framerate is linked to the game speed; there's no way for the game to be running faster when the framerate is lower.
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