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Thread: Emulation (open discussion)

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    Re: Emulation (open discussion)

    With a 233mhz, certain games are bound to run slower, like anything using color arithmetic (when they do effects to simulate translucent water or fog) or any special chips like super fx, sa-1, sdd1, etc.

    Anyways, you also may want to try an OLDER version of ZSNES. Like around 0.7XX. As it got newer it got slower. Btw sound may not be playing because I believe sound emulation output may be disabled by default.

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    Re: Emulation (open discussion)

    thanks for the info
    btw, I have sound enabled via commandline swiches, because if I mess with the sound menu, the sound stops working after a minute. When that happens, the whole computer requires a restart in order to get the sound working :mad2:
    there's also sprite layer problems when playing Super Mario RPG, and other problems when playing BSZELDA...
    oh well, just have to keep looking.

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    Re: Emulation (open discussion)

    ZSNES is not a very accurate emulator, BSZelda is very sensitive, and doesn't work in all versions of ZSNES. Super Mario RPG uses the SA-1 chip by the way, which means it takes even more power to emulate since it must emulate the SA-1. Graphics problems, try hitting the 7, 8 or 9 keys, one of them switches between new and old gfx engines. One may look correct while the other does not. Also one may be faster than the other.

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    Re: Emulation (open discussion)

    didn't know that about SMRPG
    maybe tomorrow i'll look for other SNES emulators...
    though, i still like snes9x better than ZSNES, because, it's runs faster, it has more of a 'windows' configuration, and it has a better handling of save states(and custom save states)

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    Re: Emulation (open discussion)

    Whatever works best when you are dealing with an older machine. With newer machines though... even then for SNES its whatever works best because none are totally accurate.

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    Re: Emulation (open discussion)

    *now to contiune on with the discussion*
    (but a question first, could this be stickied?)

    What Roms have you downloaded, and why?
    (the ones that i've mention are because either i can't find them, or they're imports [like Zero Wing] )

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    Re: Emulation (open discussion)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mottzilla
    ZSNES is not a very accurate emulator, BSZelda is very sensitive, and doesn't work in all versions of ZSNES. Super Mario RPG uses the SA-1 chip by the way, which means it takes even more power to emulate since it must emulate the SA-1. Graphics problems, try hitting the 7, 8 or 9 keys, one of them switches between new and old gfx engines. One may look correct while the other does not. Also one may be faster than the other.
    I thought it was accurate? Some say its one of the best cause the emulation is perfect.

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    Re: Emulation (open discussion)

    have you tried to run BSZelda with ZSNES?
    it's a big pain in the ass, not to mention that the sound (music and effects) is horrible at best

    emulatiors aren't perfect, for example, they can't play every single ROM for that particular system, some of the added processors aren't fully supported or not even supported(like a few for snes9x), but that's usually for one or two special games(like Star Ocean and Street Fighter Alpha 2, for another example, but snes9x supports that), certain import roms has someting different(i don't remember what) that is completely foreign to an emulator, so it won't run; if a rom runs in one emulator, it's not gaurnteed to run in another version or a totally different emulator(like BSZelda not running in snes9x, but it runs under certain versions of ZSNES)
    I hope I cleared that up for you

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    Re: Emulation (open discussion)

    I actually wrote a great reply about this, but mozilla crashed, and I wasn't gonna type the damn thing again. But yes, ZSNES is actually very inaccurate. ZSNES is/was designed to play games, and as fast as possible. Many games that aren't as sensitive, work great, and used to work fast. Newer versions pretty much crippled speed.

    ZSNES plays lots of things amazingly well, but other things, it totally falls on. Emulation of the CPU, the SPC700 chip (sound), extra chips like DSP, SFX, SDD1, etc. are not perfect. Never will be.

    Also, ZSNES still does not support realtime SDD1 emulation, while SNES9X does. ZSNES and Snes9X still support SDD1 games with GFX packs to avoid SDD1 emulation all together.

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    Re: Emulation (open discussion)

    and to make things a little speedier, you can use the GFX packs with SDD1 in snes9x

    I would say that snes9x would be the best emulator for really old systems, like mine
    (and since i got a better updated version of it yesterday, it runs a little bit faster )

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