Emulation (open discussion)

[DsS Game]

I've tried ZSNES for windows, and it doesn't cut it. I'll try the dos version, I just have to remember where it can be found...
btw, SNES9x works better, but the frame rate is still choppy(about 3/4 speed)
Now if I can find a better emulater for NES besides JNES.

I would love to tell you guys where I found a good amount of PD roms, but there's links to illegal roms, and hentai links. If there wern't, I'd post the link. But if you want to know where the PD roms can be found, give me an e-mail, or IM me via AIM (The Cyborg x2)
(but don't say I didn't warn you!)

Get Nesticle or RockNES. Nesticle works well for PCs that have low performance rates. My old packard bell comp was slow as fuck. Talking about 75 mHz here but it work for that.

RockNES has most of the sounds and graphics down to a T.

The only ROM I really need is the jap version of Mario 2. In the states its called The Lost Levels.
Sorry for the double post.

Daywalker

[ZTC]

It's not illegal IF YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE GAME. It is if you don't own the original copy.Daywalker

Uh, I hate to say that you're wrong, but Nintendo(and possibly other companies) DO NOT allow archive copies of games; but that doesn't stop people

Could that be contested? Probably. Look at what happened with DVD rippers, they won the archive battle. The same thing could happen with Nintendo. Who knows?

If I may, what games has anyone downloaded, and why?
(for me, it's usually public domain roms, and imports that haven't been released in the US at all, like Final Fight Tough for the Super Famicom, or Zero Wing for the Mega Drive)

[MottZilla]

Cyborg, what "Nintendo" allows or says, doesn't mean jack shit. The law states and any prior actions support that you are legally entitled to make backup copies of any software you purchased. There is no reason for you not to be able to as far as common sense goes.

However, making copies of games and distributing them to those whom are not legally entitled is not. This means, putting files up for download, giving your friends copies, etc.

Anyways emulation is totally legal. The only things to keep in mind are COPYRIGHTS. System bios roms are always copyrighted. All commercial game software is ussually copyrighted. These things you may not obtain or make a copy of unless you own the original. :O It's all common sense really.

As far as the old vs. new, no one really gets hurt horribly by old game system roms being distributed. If anything it raises populairity for sequels.

[ZTC]

You make a good point Mott.

DsS Game, thanks for pointing out Nesticle(and RockNES) for me, thanks!

[DsS Game]

Uh, I hate to say that you're wrong, but Nintendo(and possibly other companies) DO NOT allow archive copies of games; but that doesn't stop people

Could that be contested? Probably. Look at what happened with DVD rippers, they won the archive battle. The same thing could happen with Nintendo. Who knows?

Dude if u read disclaimers on any site where you would normally download ROMs, it gives you an agreement. You agree to that agreement only if you have the original copy of a game.

Daywalker

[Vagla]

Er, yes, because we all know that everything on ROM site agreement pages, like the 24 hour rule, is true. </sarcasm>

It's my understanding that there really is no problem with dumping/ripping your own ROM or ISO from your own legitimate copy of the game. However, downloading a ROM or ISO for a game you own is not legal. People simply use that as an excuse to justify downloading games. Honestly, I see nothing wrong with the excuse, since not everyone has backup software and downloading games can be more convenient than dumping/ripping them yourself, but it's still not an adequate excuse.

[DsS Game]

It really isn't illegal if your downloading a game that yo already own. Your practically downloading a backup of a ame you have. I don't see that being illegal.

Daywalker

[Kairyu]

It really isn't illegal if your downloading a game that yo already own. Your practically downloading a backup of a ame you have. I don't see that being illegal.

Daywalker

HA HA HA no.

It really IS illegal if you're downloading a game that you already own. You're literally downloading a copy of the game which you didn't pay for, unless you paid some ROM site for the download, which would probably be even worse than just downloading it for free.
Not that downloading it for free is good just because it could be worse. Think of it this way: there are very, very few judges in this country who would be willing to let you get off with having shot someone in the foot just because it was better than shooting them in the head.
Of course, if you don't already see it as being illegal, I doubt you're going to listen to some random poster on a message board like me. Regardless of the fact that I actually have a slight clue as to what I'm talking about.

Now, here's something unrelated to the immediate discussion I've been wondering about. Are .SPCs, .PSFs, etc. legal? I can't imagine how they could be. But they're on Zophar's Domain, and I was under the impression that the point of that site was to have a compilation of all emulation materials that they could get away with providing(legally). So is Zophar's Domain less legit than I thought, or do the sound files not qualify for legal protection, or what?

[me2]

I used to download tons of ROMs. I had... *counts* All but 8 SNES games, all the NES games, all the GBA and GB games up to 2003, and one N64 ROM. I deleted them, and now only use ISOs to pre-view games.

...Oh, and can you make a CD Burner into a DVD Burner without buying the harddrive? And can you edit blank CDs to make them bigger?

[ZTC]

interesting question; but I wouldn't know how to answer it

Anyways, I just got BattleArena Toshinden 2 PSX game, and I was wonderin what would be a good emulator that can (a) play the black CDs, and (b), would run semi-decent on my system(see page 1)?

Here's another question: what do you think of 'hacked' ROMS?
(like the PD ROM Atari Invaders)