Thanks LM500, you have been great. Couldn't ask you to do all that work. Patras are usually not that had, but when there is 4 of them and darknuts to, it takes 7 hearts before I even make it to the other door. WHEW!!! Had it I beleive in a 210 folder with all the games. Also have a 192 file. I'll just look around and find something else. It would have been a good quest. Thanks!!