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    Oracle Zelda manga and storyline

    Argh, just when I was about to believe a 1 Link theory I come across this.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=1526421601

    "Link begins his story living with his grandparents on a farm on the outskirts of Hyrule. A descendent of a long line of royal knights [which his grandfather often reminds about], Link is more interested in adventure than knightliness, but goes to the castle to take the Knight's Test anyway. Whereupon he stumbles around and comes across the Triforce, that suddenly zaps him to the faroff land of Holodrum."

    While the Manga isn't the official story of the games, this is the official manga. This suggests that either the Oracle games are a seperate series in a alternate universe or there is more than 1 Link...A Oracle of Ages manga description says Link has to go back in time to protect his ancestor and make sure he exists.

    "Link has since journeyed from Holodrum at Impa's request to the land of Labrynna, to find the priestess named Nayru. The evil Twinrova have summoned up Veran, who can possess other people's bodies, who takes over Nayru's body and sends herself back into the past to cut Link off at his ancestral roots"

    Link and his ancestor
    http://jey.shutuphippie.net/zelda/OoA-levan.jpg

    That aside, I think I need to bid for a few of these manga books because I've been wanting to get them. Just ashame they're in Japanese.

    Speaking of Oracle Zeldas, I still have 1 more dungeon in Ages to finish...I just haven't been in the mood to play these Oracle Zelda games.

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    I had already lost faith in Nintendo's desire for a continuous Zelda plot with Oot. Before then, I had figured that the Zelda series went in this order: A Link to the Past, Link's Awakening, Legend of Zelda, Zelda 2: Adventure of Link.

    But I couldn't quite figure out where Ocarina of Time fit in...

    I think where Nintendo is concerned, Miyamoto desires a Zelda game more with good gameplay and an emphasis on exploration, than a good plot.

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    i think itd be nice to read that in english. it would most likely be interesting.
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    Originally posted by Daarkseid
    But I couldn't quite figure out where Ocarina of Time fit in...

    I think where Nintendo is concerned, Miyamoto desires a Zelda game more with good gameplay and an emphasis on exploration, than a good plot.
    Well...Ocarina of Time goes at the beginning because that's how the mess all started. Then Majora's Mask of course, but then the events afterwards that lead to the other games is unknown. The original games were never made to follow a complete story like Ocarina of Time (Zelda 1 has a simple plot though). A lot of the problem is the translation mistakes, I don't think "A Link to the Past" should even be called that, "Triforce of the Gods" is more accurate. The only time travel/past stuff in the game is the brief background which became Ocarina of Time. I think they got that title from saying Zelda 3 is about Link's and Zelda's ancestors, who are also named Link and Zelda. Dan Owsen who helped translate it even said the guide and back of the box that said the whole ancestor thing was wrong. I remember the A Link to the Past manual even says something like "and so begins yet another adventure for the legendary hero". I'd really like to see that Triforce of the Gods manual where TSA says it talks about "past adventures".

    Miyamoto has been quoted as saying Zelda 3: A Link to the Past comes after Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link. How Ganon comes back again and again is unknown besides sacrificing Link and whatever happens in the Oracle games. The main thing is the Triforce...the Triforce is restored in Zelda 2, so it would make sense that it is now whole in A Link to the Past. I mean, at what point did the whole Triforce split, get back together, and split again?

    There's no way Link's Awakening is during Zelda 2, unless they're going to come out with a remake and change the raft to a Sail Ship. Not only that, but that's just stupid, that Link would go through the whole Kohilint Island ordeal before reaching the western contenient. That and the whole crap about "retrieving" crystals from the Palaces in Zelda 2 and going after a wizard that fled to the Great Palace just stupid.

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    I am very up to date on the Japanese Storyline, since I regard it as the true one.

    Yes, there ARE multiple Links...

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    The two oracle games occur after Majora's Mask. I have some evidence to back it up (I won't mention it all, but some).. a couple things:

    1.) Link has Epona.. Epona is only seen in OoT/MM
    2.) Link is about 14/15.. maybe 16 (look at the concept art, he is obviously young, but not kid link from OoT). If you think about it, he is about 7 or 8 in OoT (young link), and then I'm sure he's a year or so older in MM. These games take place several years after Majora's Mask in his teenage years..
    3.) General OoT/MM references such as characters and enemies (of course this is partly due to the series' natural progression and reusing new ideas, but obviously you are not going to see some of the same characters from MM/OoT at a much later date - for example the Mayor or the Carpenters.. Talon, Malon and Ingo.. these are all alternate dimensional versions of the other characters.. ).
    4.) Ganon isn't "dead".. he is just trapped in the Dark World. Link kills Ganon in LTTP and Zelda 1. The only time he "traps" him is in OoT..

    That's all I can remember off the top of my head.. I think there was more.. my guess on the triforces is that somehow they got them by trapping Ganon, although it doesn't really make sense if he has them in the Dark World in LTTP. (the whole triforce in Hyrule Castle thing really makes more sense after LTTP but there is no way this is after that game).

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    Originally posted by Warlock
    2.) Link is about 14/15.. maybe 16 (look at the concept art, he is obviously young, but not kid link from OoT). If you think about it, he is about 7 or 8 in OoT (young link), and then I'm sure he's a year or so older in MM. These games take place several years after Majora's Mask in his teenage years..
    Link is 10 years old in Ocarina of Time (Young Link). When he goes into the future 7 years, he's 17 (Adult Link).

    Link seems young to me in the Oracle games. He's at least as old as he is in Majora's Mask if not a few years old. Majora's Mask takes place a few months after Ocarina of Time's ending.


    So are Holodrum and Lybrnna a alternate world like Termina? If so that makes a lot of sense. Has anyone taken a look at the artwork for all the characters in the game? Except for Link, Zelda, Impa, and the Oracles, none of the characters are Hylian/Hyrulian. They're all human with round human ears which messes stuff up even more.

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    Yes, 10, that's right..

    He seems older.. at least by a few years..



    I suppose they do look very similar, but the Oracles CA seem a bit more deformed to make him appear smaller.. I don't know, he just seems to be slightly older, a little bit taller.. I dunno.. I suppose it is not a huge difference.. I bet it is at least a year or two though. I still think it happens after Majora's Mask :)

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    One of the weird things is, that sheild is from Zelda 3: A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening. They didn't even try to make a shield that is similar to the Hylian or Hero sheild, so the oracle games might be closer to that time period...it may just be a cutsey deformed look...If the Triforce is whole, Ganon is dead, the sheild is the same, and Ganon is trying to be revived maybe this comes after Zelda 3, and Zelda 3 is the last game in the timeline.

    He looks like a cross between the Zelda 3 Link and Ocarina of Time Link. His sword looks like a cross between Link's new Kokiri Sword in Majora's Mask(that's a bad name for it, its a much better sword than in Ocarina of Time) and the main sword Link has in Zelda 2 and Zelda 3.

    Perhaps the Oracle games aren't even apart of the other games, and are sequels to the upcoming GCN Zelda. Miyamoto said he wanted to expand on the world of the Game Boy games. Now that's something I wouldn't mind, a seperate series/universe so the previous story wouldn't be screwed up by any new wacky additions.

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    Yeah, you know the more I think of it, I really don't know.. it was awhile ago that I formulated the theory, so maybe I already decided I was wrong haha..

    His outfit is also a cross between Adult Link OoT's White pants and LTTP/LoZ Link's Brown Sleeves... you will notice Young Link has no sleeves or pants.

    Other things I have stumbled across include Impa looking fat and older like a "middle ground" between lean mean OoT Impa and old decrepid LoZ Impa.. I dunno.

    BTW, sorry if the MM pic above doesn't work.. GIA must not allow external linking.. but only on JPEGs :) haha

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