Re: The Story of the Woman With No Authority
To anyone complaining about the direction of this thread, who cares? If you guys just want everything to be so cleanly cut and nice and neat this place will die because it will be so fucking boring. It's a topic about religion and Beldaran has posted once in it. Someone will eventually call him out on being a narrowminded atheist and Beldaran will undoubtedly refute it. It's how things go here. That's how people expand their minds and learn.
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Masamune
I'm just not sure whose team I want to be on in this little skirmish. :(
Well don't we have such a scary avatar and signature?
:D
If we've degenerated to picking fights with people we have little idea about on the internet, then by all means.
Re: The Story of the Woman With No Authority
First of, this story is very funny. Second, I'd also like to hear how the next one turns out. And third, taco. :kitty:
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Dechipher
To anyone complaining about the direction of this thread, who cares? If you guys just want everything to be so cleanly cut and nice and neat this place will die because it will be so fucking boring. It's a topic about religion and Beldaran has posted once in it. Someone will eventually call him out on being a narrowminded atheist and Beldaran will undoubtedly refute it. It's how things go here. That's how people expand their minds and learn.
Nobody learns anything from those worthless debates. They don't accomplish a thing.
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phattonez
Nobody learns anything from those worthless debates. They don't accomplish a thing.
You just need to pay more attention then. I'm learning a whole lot from these debates. I'm mostly learning about how correct my point of view is.
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Dechipher
That's how people expand their minds and learn.
That's how my brain shrivels up and dies. I try to be friendly, try to wrap my mind around everyone's point of view, but nothing changes. Person X will always hate and despise Person W, but Person E couldn't give a shit.
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Glenn the Great
You just need to pay more attention then. I'm learning a whole lot from these debates. I'm mostly learning about how correct my point of view is.
You see what I mean, nothing is accomplished because neither side will change.
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I don't know about other people, but I learned a lot while debating on these forums. It's not about convincing the other guy. It's about coming off as the most prepared.
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Putting your ideas in contrast with those of other people helps you better understand yourself, and those you are debating with. It also helps you call your own views into question.
You think I'm a militant atheist who will never change right? Never say never. I am an atheist BECAUSE I change. I was a devout christian until age 18. Fortunately, I was smart enough to read books that disagreed with my viewpoints, and I was intellectual enough to entertain "dangerous" ideas.
That's my problem with religion; it's not an idea, it's a faith. You can change an idea, study an idea. You can't study your faith because it's not based on any rational principles. It's based on "I've decided in my head that my invisible friend is the king of the universe." and anything that contradicts that feeling is "bad".
If you are not learning anything from debates, than you either aren't paying attention, or you suck at learning.
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^^I have my own personal reasons for my faith that I can't really use in an argument. It's things that I've seen that no one else would understand that convinces me in my belief.
Now, I think that the other debates here are very worthwhile, and they are necessary for all of us. These religious debates are worthless, though.