Re: Vick to be honored... *just shakes head*
Doesn't animal cruelty enter your thoughts when thinking about animal fighting... at all?
You say... '... important history in many cultures"... are you serious? The Spanish government is honestly rethinking their stance on bull fighting and are thinking of banishing the sport from their country... on the stance of animal cruelty.
Cock fighting, dog fighting... it IS animal cruelty. It is exploiting an animals need to dominate another of it's kind.
In nature it is one thing. When used as a sport... an entertainment for humanity... it should be illegal.
Cruelty of anything for humanities entertainment... is just plain wrong. But then again - that is just my two cents.
Re: Vick to be honored... *just shakes head*
Animal cruelty doesn't exist in my mind. Human cruelty, yes. But not animal.
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Animals feel pain too. If I stab you in the stomach it hurts just as much as a dog getting stabbed in the stomach.
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phattonez
Animals feel pain too. If I stab you in the stomach it hurts just as much as a dog getting stabbed in the stomach.
I don't buy that. I don't think the animals are sentient.
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I hope to God that you NEVER own an animal. For if it ever breaks its leg, becomes ill or something like that... I can tell right now that the animal will suffer if it's in your care.
Animals with broken legs cry out in pain when that leg is jostled, moved around or something like that.
Animals might not be "sentient" as you are saying... but they DAMN SURE HAVE FEELINGS! (I need to go look up the meaning of sentient)
*politely leaves this discussion before I find myself banned from the board*
Re: Vick to be honored... *just shakes head*
You've obviously never seen the killing of an animal, Glenn. They feel pain just as much as you do.
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Excuse me Glenn, but you're overlooking one simple fact.
Humans are nothing more than highly evolved mammals.
Sure we have bigger brains, but in the end, we're not much different from the creatures we share this planet with.
If you're still not convinced, then here's another fun fact:
Pain is the body's way of delivering a warning that something is causing damage to the body in some way.
If animals couldn't feel pain, then they'd die incredibly quickly, because they would never know that something is harming them. And causing harm to another creature just for the sake of entertainment is just wrong.
Hypothetical situation: Aliens land on earth, deem us to be nothing more than low level, non-sentient animals, and kill us for entertainment. Would you have a problem with that?
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...I thought so.
Re: Vick to be honored... *just shakes head*
I still stand by what I said earlier. Glenn has a very fucked up view of life and will be a very lonely person as the years go by because of it. This just adds to it.
Animals have all the parts and organs a human does and they feel pain just like us. My dog got her paw caught in the cage door and she was limping for a few minutes and whining from the pain. My horse was screaming when a stray dog bit her. They feel pain just like us and unless you can prove other wise you lose.
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So back to topic, I heard that Vick pleaded guilty.
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I think that as long as both dogs are of age they should be able to fight if they want to as long as they do it in their own homes and aren't hurting anyone else :)