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I suspect I'd just read a book, maybe going so far as to put a sleeve from a bible over it so as to avoid raising suspicion. But that's just me, since I don't like to draw attention to myself.
Honestly, we all know Beldaran's views on religion. Why must we constantly challenge him when we know he won't change his mind? If he wants to think of religion as a waste of time, that's his prerogative. Just let the heathen be :p
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No it wouldn't... People like that are authoritative morons. She gets off on pretending that she has some sort of power. Religion or no, we've got to take a stand against these backwards bozos who think that the sun rises and sets at their command.
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My stand is that Beldaran did exactly what he should have.
I wish I had been there to have done that. I get a big rush out of challenging authority in such a calm, firm, and confident manner as Beldaran did.
I can just imagine that I'd be high on the experience all day, and the woman would be silently stewing over her failure for the whole day. What could be better?
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I can just imagine that I'd be high on the experience all day, and the woman would be silently stewing over her failure for the whole day. What could be better?
Exactly. It made the whole rest of my day a little bit brighter. :)
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No, as much as I hate religion too, I side with Atma here. Your choice of college is a rather weird one for somebody with such sentiments towards religion. If there was a particular reason to go, such as options you could not find at other institutions(less religious ones), attending church services should have been considered an obligation you would be bound to in exchange for the benefits offered in that institution. Yeah, its a stupid requirement, but surely you knew before you enrolled you would be made to attend church. But instead you're being a dick about it and essentially not living up to your libertarian notions of contract fulfillments.
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Are you seriously trying to put him down for doing the smart thing in this particular situation? He specificly did not want to make a ringamarole out of the situation, but at the same time knew his rights and called her bluff. He was also smart enough to outwit the possible wrath of said vindictive woman. And he also knows that he's probably not going to get any sympathy from the administration, and probably doesn't have the financial resources to escelate it any higher. Ever heard of picking your battles? And do you honestly expect every athiest who chronicles his epxeriences to be the next Rosa Parks? I say that he played his cards right.
Actually if he were picking his battles, he'd have put his GBA away and not made a big deal out of it. He was gung-ho about protecting his rights so long as there was no danger of negative consequences, and as soon as it became clear that his actions might lead to conflict he ducked out. He started the fight because he thought the woman was helpless, then tucked tail when it turned out she did indeed have teeth. A rational person would learn from this experience that one should only start a conflict if one is willing to face the consequences, but no doubt Beldaran will find himself in the same situation again.
It's really funny that so many people are willing to "stand up for their rights" and get applause and back-pats from other nerds, but it's always in a case where (1) anonymity is guaranteed (2) the right that is being fought for is trivial (3) the target of the "fight" is a powerless individual. Seriously this reads just like the thread about the guy who is suing whatever electronics store because they dared to try and block his exit until they had checked his receipt. The characteristics are all there; the store clerk was some pimply-faced college kid who was doing his job, he had no idea who this weird dude with an attitude was and whether he really had the power to stop him from leaving the store, and what kind of right is "leaving the store without proving I paid for my merchandise" that it's worth a legal battle to fight for?
Beldaran could certainly argue that his rights of religious freedom are much more important than in my example, and I agree this weakens my case. My response is to restate that he is attending the largest Baptist college in the world and upset because the college's Christian values clash with his beliefs.
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Like you mention later, there is a very real possability that Mistress Morbidly Obese will be back next time with backup. He'll cross that bridge when he comes to it.
Good thing you realized that he made an erroneous choice in picking his own battle. Maybe you could have skipped that paragraph above.
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Come on Atma, you can do better than this. I highly doubt that Bel's reasons for disliking christianity stem from how old it is.
I'm sorry my post didn't live up to your standards, but I can guarantee I can spell the words "specifically", "rigmarole", "escalate", "atheist", "experiences", and "possibility" correctly. You can do better than that. I'm disappointed in you, but I guess I shouldn't expect much more from a YCS regular.
Also I'm certain Beldaran has other reasons, but he's used the word "primitive" quite a bit in this thread and I felt like it would be topical to point out that Christianity is not very primitive when compared to more ancient systems of religion.
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Okay, this is just getting retarded. It's a mildly entertaining story about a woman who wants to look better than college kids. No debate, no religion, no stance for civil rights, just a mildly entertaining story. This thread reminds me of the kids in English class who try to look smart, won't shut up, and say things like "I believe that this character was trying to . . . he should have . . . "
Just my two cents.
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Atma get a fucking life and stop making retarded assumptions about me. I just wanted to keep playing gameboy and I didn't feel like listening to that idiot lady.
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All I can say is that I'm eager to hear from Beldaran how the next session of Chapel goes.
This is really exciting because the fat lady is going to be there again. I want to name her Mrs. Conservo. I don't know how Beldaran is going to turn this in his favor, but I'm confident that he will.
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I'm just not sure whose team I want to be on in this little skirmish. :(